RE: Land Rover launches Defender Celebration Series

RE: Land Rover launches Defender Celebration Series

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Remagel2507

1,456 posts

192 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Like the look of all those editions especially the vintage one which I think Twisted performance also did a while ago, but to be honest I do prefer the older TD5 versions. Only thing that really puts me off these is the targeted thefts of either the whole car or now more commonly the parts.

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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powerstroke said:
skyrover said:
DickP said:
banana said:
There should be a public inquiry into the demise of this British Legend....LR Board members you should bow your heads in shame. Probably too busy signing off the pending Landrover Liposuction Clinics and handbag range.
It's also a very very old design even if you take what is called the Defender. Having not driven one for a while to then have a play about with a twelve month old SW 110, I was somewhat surprised they manage to sell any at all currently...
It sell's because it offers capability, or combinations of capability that nothing else on the UK market can provide.
It was always a poor copy of a Jeep, hopefully the replacement will be substance over marketing and brand loyalty, current defender right design spoiled by poor quality which is fine if you want a 4x4 but not if you need one!!!
Slightly different design philosophy to the Jeep IMO as it retained it's "work truck" credentials longer while most American buyers shifted to large pickup trucks for farm duties.

Until recently the Defender has always been superior offroad too, although the wrangler now offers locking differentials, 4 link suspension and a powerful engine from the factory

Ashley1111

759 posts

210 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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David87 said:
Love this. I'll be shortly phoning the LR dealer to get a Heritage. biggrin
I would be quick if I were you, have sold a Heritage already, no more than 4 minutes after sending a couple of emails out.....

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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It is already and will continue to follow the Mini route.............

Chris_VRS

1,889 posts

193 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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So much want for a Heritage...not keen on the others however.

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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The only Defender I'd consider, because a four-pot diesel just doesn't cut the mustard;

http://youtu.be/DPCFYdQP4Kw

KTF

9,804 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Chris_VRS said:
So much want for a Heritage...not keen on the others however.
I agree. The others are way over priced and if I wanted to spend that much on a Defender then I would go down the Twisted route.

soad

32,891 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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What is this colour? ears Salad green? hehe
Pretty sure my Grandfather's car was the exactly same colour. smile

KTF

9,804 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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soad said:


What is this colour? ears Salad green? hehe
Pretty sure my Grandfather's car was the exactly same colour. smile
The news story at the top of this page said:
We'll start with our favourite one - the Heritage. As that name implies its the retro themed Defender, painted Grasmere Green with an Alaska White roof.

soad

32,891 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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KTF said:
The news story at the top of this page said:
We'll start with our favourite one - the Heritage. As that name implies its the retro themed Defender, painted Grasmere Green with an Alaska White roof.
Oops, managed to miss that. Cheers

soad

32,891 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Anyone remembers these? biggrin


AndrewIC

559 posts

168 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Heritage is my favourite of the bunch, but LR have hardly been imaginative.

A freshened up version of one of the 50th anniversary models, a fresher G4 and a Twisted/Kahn copy. Where is the British spirit, they could have produced something really out there like they did with the Tomb Raider Editions, roll cage, spots etc.

Fact is that LR are just using EU6 as an excuse, they are perfectly capable of getting the vehicle within the standard for emissions. As people have said, the vehicle takes a huge amount of labour to produce, it does not create anywhere near the levels of profit that all the other LR products do and does not fall in line with where LR is taking the product range, they are no longer interested in supplying basic utility vehicles....as we shall see with the Defender replacement.

What I think we would all love to see, is a great big V8...now that would be a proper final hurrah for the Defender!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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JLR said:
Adventure's interior is said "to provide high quality shelter" from the elements.
Brilliant^^^ !! I think it's safe to say, the one thing in inside of a Defender has never done, and never will, is provide "high quality" shelter, mainly because they all leak live sieves. Either when it rains from the roof, or when you go wading up from the floor and door (un)seals!



Also, note the words "UK production ends". I.E. Defender isn't dead, just not built in UK.......... (I don't think you'd need to be a genius to work out where the line is being shipped too)

DickP

1,125 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Was it not the lack of pedestrian friendliness which is the problem rather than emissions?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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"The Adventure is available as both a 90 and 110 Station Wagon but for some reason the the 90 does get the power upgrade found in the Autobiography."

Missing a "not" in there, old boy?

CAPP0

19,580 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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So the mythical run-out V8 never materialised then?

The others - disappointing, they will probably hold value well but there's nothing there to cause great excitement or which is not simple to replicate on a base model.

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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^^^^^ See my post above ^^^^^

Except it was Bowler who had the foresight to do the conversion, not JLR

DonkeyApple

55,245 posts

169 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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AndrewIC said:
Heritage is my favourite of the bunch, but LR have hardly been imaginative.

A freshened up version of one of the 50th anniversary models, a fresher G4 and a Twisted/Kahn copy. Where is the British spirit, they could have produced something really out there like they did with the Tomb Raider Editions, roll cage, spots etc.

Fact is that LR are just using EU6 as an excuse, they are perfectly capable of getting the vehicle within the standard for emissions. As people have said, the vehicle takes a huge amount of labour to produce, it does not create anywhere near the levels of profit that all the other LR products do and does not fall in line with where LR is taking the product range, they are no longer interested in supplying basic utility vehicles....as we shall see with the Defender replacement.

What I think we would all love to see, is a great big V8...now that would be a proper final hurrah for the Defender!
You do wonder why they couldn't have shoved an AJ-V8 in as a last hurrah. Or just done a deal with JE. The Heritage one is fine but for £50k+ you kind of feel a diesel for a car we all know will just be used on main roads and limited mileage is a bit off.

DonkeyApple

55,245 posts

169 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Max_Torque said:
Also, note the words "UK production ends". I.E. Defender isn't dead, just not built in UK.......... (I don't think you'd need to be a genius to work out where the line is being shipped too)
I hoped that someone like Bowler might end up with the tooling but if not then the big question is whether you'll be able to import Tata Motors new Hairy Krishna SUV?

AndrewIC

559 posts

168 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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DickP said:
Was it not the lack of pedestrian friendliness which is the problem rather than emissions?
Not sure if that applies to the Defender as it is an old vehicle rather than a new one...Defenders are probably safer than a Range Rover for a pedestrian anyway as they take so long to get up any speed tongue out.

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Edited by AndrewIC on Wednesday 7th January 13:10