RE: Land Rover launches Defender Celebration Series
Discussion
Like the look of all those editions especially the vintage one which I think Twisted performance also did a while ago, but to be honest I do prefer the older TD5 versions. Only thing that really puts me off these is the targeted thefts of either the whole car or now more commonly the parts.
powerstroke said:
skyrover said:
DickP said:
banana said:
There should be a public inquiry into the demise of this British Legend....LR Board members you should bow your heads in shame. Probably too busy signing off the pending Landrover Liposuction Clinics and handbag range.
It's also a very very old design even if you take what is called the Defender. Having not driven one for a while to then have a play about with a twelve month old SW 110, I was somewhat surprised they manage to sell any at all currently...Until recently the Defender has always been superior offroad too, although the wrangler now offers locking differentials, 4 link suspension and a powerful engine from the factory
The only Defender I'd consider, because a four-pot diesel just doesn't cut the mustard;
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soad said:
The news story at the top of this page said:
We'll start with our favourite one - the Heritage. As that name implies its the retro themed Defender, painted Grasmere Green with an Alaska White roof.
Heritage is my favourite of the bunch, but LR have hardly been imaginative.
A freshened up version of one of the 50th anniversary models, a fresher G4 and a Twisted/Kahn copy. Where is the British spirit, they could have produced something really out there like they did with the Tomb Raider Editions, roll cage, spots etc.
Fact is that LR are just using EU6 as an excuse, they are perfectly capable of getting the vehicle within the standard for emissions. As people have said, the vehicle takes a huge amount of labour to produce, it does not create anywhere near the levels of profit that all the other LR products do and does not fall in line with where LR is taking the product range, they are no longer interested in supplying basic utility vehicles....as we shall see with the Defender replacement.
What I think we would all love to see, is a great big V8...now that would be a proper final hurrah for the Defender!
A freshened up version of one of the 50th anniversary models, a fresher G4 and a Twisted/Kahn copy. Where is the British spirit, they could have produced something really out there like they did with the Tomb Raider Editions, roll cage, spots etc.
Fact is that LR are just using EU6 as an excuse, they are perfectly capable of getting the vehicle within the standard for emissions. As people have said, the vehicle takes a huge amount of labour to produce, it does not create anywhere near the levels of profit that all the other LR products do and does not fall in line with where LR is taking the product range, they are no longer interested in supplying basic utility vehicles....as we shall see with the Defender replacement.
What I think we would all love to see, is a great big V8...now that would be a proper final hurrah for the Defender!
JLR said:
Adventure's interior is said "to provide high quality shelter" from the elements.
Brilliant^^^ !! I think it's safe to say, the one thing in inside of a Defender has never done, and never will, is provide "high quality" shelter, mainly because they all leak live sieves. Either when it rains from the roof, or when you go wading up from the floor and door (un)seals!Also, note the words "UK production ends". I.E. Defender isn't dead, just not built in UK.......... (I don't think you'd need to be a genius to work out where the line is being shipped too)
AndrewIC said:
Heritage is my favourite of the bunch, but LR have hardly been imaginative.
A freshened up version of one of the 50th anniversary models, a fresher G4 and a Twisted/Kahn copy. Where is the British spirit, they could have produced something really out there like they did with the Tomb Raider Editions, roll cage, spots etc.
Fact is that LR are just using EU6 as an excuse, they are perfectly capable of getting the vehicle within the standard for emissions. As people have said, the vehicle takes a huge amount of labour to produce, it does not create anywhere near the levels of profit that all the other LR products do and does not fall in line with where LR is taking the product range, they are no longer interested in supplying basic utility vehicles....as we shall see with the Defender replacement.
What I think we would all love to see, is a great big V8...now that would be a proper final hurrah for the Defender!
You do wonder why they couldn't have shoved an AJ-V8 in as a last hurrah. Or just done a deal with JE. The Heritage one is fine but for £50k+ you kind of feel a diesel for a car we all know will just be used on main roads and limited mileage is a bit off. A freshened up version of one of the 50th anniversary models, a fresher G4 and a Twisted/Kahn copy. Where is the British spirit, they could have produced something really out there like they did with the Tomb Raider Editions, roll cage, spots etc.
Fact is that LR are just using EU6 as an excuse, they are perfectly capable of getting the vehicle within the standard for emissions. As people have said, the vehicle takes a huge amount of labour to produce, it does not create anywhere near the levels of profit that all the other LR products do and does not fall in line with where LR is taking the product range, they are no longer interested in supplying basic utility vehicles....as we shall see with the Defender replacement.
What I think we would all love to see, is a great big V8...now that would be a proper final hurrah for the Defender!
Max_Torque said:
Also, note the words "UK production ends". I.E. Defender isn't dead, just not built in UK.......... (I don't think you'd need to be a genius to work out where the line is being shipped too)
I hoped that someone like Bowler might end up with the tooling but if not then the big question is whether you'll be able to import Tata Motors new Hairy Krishna SUV?DickP said:
Was it not the lack of pedestrian friendliness which is the problem rather than emissions?
Not sure if that applies to the Defender as it is an old vehicle rather than a new one...Defenders are probably safer than a Range Rover for a pedestrian anyway as they take so long to get up any speed .Edited by AndrewIC on Wednesday 7th January 13:10
Edited by AndrewIC on Wednesday 7th January 13:10
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