RE: Land Rover launches Defender Celebration Series

RE: Land Rover launches Defender Celebration Series

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rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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"the most desirable Defender ever produced.." You mean it has a galvanised chassis hehe

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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"the most desirable Defender ever produced.." You mean it has a galvanised chassis hehe

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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CAPP0 said:
So the mythical run-out V8 never materialised then?
scratchchin

loveice

649 posts

248 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Just put down £1k deposit on a Heritage 90 SW at my local dealer. All I have got is a hand written receipt. I was told the ordering system isn't open yet. Since I put the deposit down on the very first day, I should be able to get it when it comes out. Is this how things normally done?

KTF

9,807 posts

151 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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loveice said:
Since I put the deposit down on the very first day, I should be able to get it when it comes out. Is this how things normally done?
I guess it depends on how many others have done the same and the order that they deposits are registered on the system.

2.5pi

1,066 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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I placed a deposit over a year ago for a runout defender , preferably v8, I've now confirmed it as heritage diesel but even so my dealer says they cannot confirm that I will get one. rolleyesfrown

CAPP0

19,596 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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FWDRacer said:
CAPP0 said:
So the mythical run-out V8 never materialised then?
scratchchin
Qué??

@V888Dicky - yes, saw that. I have it in the back of my head that one day I'll ditch the RV8 in mine for an SBC, but it's a pipe dream at the moment. Shame JLR don't share the dream/vision - if they can charge that much for the Autobiography, who knows what a limited run of, say, 50 V8s would have fetched!

AOK

2,297 posts

167 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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I wonder how values will hold seeing as it marks the end of an era... only thing I can compare it to is the Rover MINI's, those last 500 with the silver roofs. Some of those fetch close to £20k now when they come up with low miles/one owner.

Thoughts?

Agree with the general consensus that the Heritage is lovely... still not on the same level as the Tomb Raider recreation was!

oldtimer2

728 posts

134 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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The Heritage looks the best of the bunch and the best value. The surprising thing about the Land Rover Defender is not that it is being phased out but that it lasted so long in production. Volumes are low, cost of production must be high (very labour intensive) and the regulatory squeeze is unending. No doubt the aftermarket will continue to provide all the parts needed for years to come for those that need them.

Earlier a picture of a Camel Trophy 110 was posted. One remarkable fact about that competition is the number of people from around the world who applied to take part. Towards the end of that series it was said to approach one million! Not bad for a marketing programme.

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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oldtimer2 said:
The Heritage looks the best of the bunch and the best value. The surprising thing about the Land Rover Defender is not that it is being phased out but that it lasted so long in production. Volumes are low, cost of production must be high (very labour intensive) and the regulatory squeeze is unending. No doubt the aftermarket will continue to provide all the parts needed for years to come for those that need them.

Earlier a picture of a Camel Trophy 110 was posted. One remarkable fact about that competition is the number of people from around the world who applied to take part. Towards the end of that series it was said to approach one million! Not bad for a marketing programme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_Trophy

In 1998, the Camel Trophy returned to Argentina and Chile for the penultimate Tierra del Fuego event. The Freelander made its debut and was used to speed the competitors six thousand miles across the remote and snowy environment. Outdoor pursuits dominated the event. Shortly afterwards, Land Rover, a major sponsor, felt that the Camel Trophy was moving away from adventure and exploration and a news release indicated they would not sponsor future events.

In 2000, the Camel Trophy returned with a new style of event. It developed the spirit of the Tierra del Fuego but the 32 competitors explored Tonga and Samoa in RHIB powerboats. Although the event was successful as a sporting activity, it failed to give the sponsors the exposure they desired. In the future they would concentrate on fashion, not performance. It was to be the last Camel Trophy.

The demise of the Camel Trophy left a gap.

In 2003, competitors representing sixteen nations helped Land Rover fill that gap. Surprisingly, the inaugural Land Rover G4 Challenge contained many of the elements of Camel Trophy 1998, which Land Rover had reportedly been disappointed with. The "ultimate global adventure" was a test of skill, stamina and mental agility in four separate stages, each in a different time zone. The prize: a top-of-the-range Range Rover. In true Camel Trophy style, the winner Rudi Thoelen, declined a Range Rover, and opted for two Defenders instead!

The 2006 Land Rover G4 Challenge promises to be tougher than the inaugural event. The competitors, working in bi-national teams will be faced with thousands of miles of vehicle-based activity in Thailand, Laos, Brasil and Bolivia.

The 2008-9 G4 Challenge, supporting the Red Cross and based in Mongolia, was cancelled in December 2008 in the middle of the selection stages due to the current global economic downturn. Land Rover were forced to end the event as a cost saving-measure to allow them to focus on product launches in 2009.

Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

199 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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If i could afford one of these i would have one in a heartbeat and im not even a 4x4 lover! Im sure they will get snapped up fast as the new one will never be as good scratchchin

CAPP0

19,596 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Martin_Hx said:
If i could afford one of these i would have one in a heartbeat and im not even a 4x4 lover! Im sure they will get snapped up fast as the new one will never be as good scratchchin
If you can find the cash I reckon these will return you far more than any investment bank ever created, in the short term!

CAPP0

19,596 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Notadoctor said:
Along with my Series 2A 2.6 petrol, one hopes for appreciation.
It seems (although I would say that, wouldn't I? biggrin ) that prices are creeping up already. I track a couple of Facebook groups where Landies are advertised for sale and whereas a year ago the entry-level for anything halfway worth having was mid to high £2ks, anything & everything now is being listed up starting with a 3. Of course whether they are selling or not is another story, but the upward trend in advertised prices is quite noticeable.

Clivey

5,110 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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As others have already said, the Heritage looks great @ £27k but the others look very expensive. - You'd be better off buying an XS and modifying it yourself if it's upgrades you want. However, the Adventure & Autobiography will still probably be a sound investment.

I agree that they seem half-baked though...is that really it?

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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I would've loved to see one with a Jaguar V8.

I appreciate that that would have been a lot of investment for very few sales, however.

DonkeyApple

55,375 posts

170 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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RobinBanks said:
I would've loved to see one with a Jaguar V8.

I appreciate that that would have been a lot of investment for very few sales, however.
The strange thing is that JE have worked with Land Rover for decades and had an AJ-V8 solution for over 6 years.


http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/je-super-defenders/...

leginigel

428 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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The 300tdi 90 was the best of the bunch,it did what it said on the box,no pun intend,looked the part in the field or town,had a heater and down to earth dash could be binged up or left alone or as most of us owners did go some where in the middle to make it ours.Wished I had never sold it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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RobinBanks said:
I would've loved to see one with a Jaguar V8.

I appreciate that that would have been a lot of investment for very few sales, however.
Any decent modern V8 will just turn the transmission inside out almost immediately...... ;-)

GuinnessMK

1,608 posts

223 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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I'd really love one of these, however I'm more than a bit concerned they'd rust to nothing before my eyes.

Do LR do anything to slow the chassis rot these days? Or is it just accepted that some day you'll be buying a new chassis?

Or can you just waxoyl the hell out if it every year?

loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Shame they didn't go to town on the Heritage and make it just a little bit more authentic...



I know, I know, there isn't room with the current engine, JLR have no money etc., but it would've been a nice touch to go with the rather token paintjob and steelies?