Have cheap lease deals put you off a particular car?
Discussion
The Golf R and M135i are two cars that fit my needs very well indeed. Fast, practical, easy to live with and the right image. Image, no matter what I tell myself is important. Whether we like it or not the car we drive says a lot about us. For me, both the Golf R and M135i would have said the right things about me were it not for the fact that it was possible to lease both of them for £300pcm or less. A £30-35k car for £300pcm. So I bust my balls to get a good job where I can afford a car in this price bracket while someone else stretches their budget to £300 a month and ends up driving the same car.
Now I know the obvious answer is I could lease one as well. Two problems. One, I don't want to lease. Two, I want to add options like sat nav which make the lease deals far less attractive.
I don't want this to sound like I want to restrict cars to people who can afford to buy them. I don't. I think leasing works very well for a lot of people. I just want my car to reflect how well I'm doing and if it doesn't do that, what's the point of spending that much money on it? Anyone else feel the same?
Now I know the obvious answer is I could lease one as well. Two problems. One, I don't want to lease. Two, I want to add options like sat nav which make the lease deals far less attractive.
I don't want this to sound like I want to restrict cars to people who can afford to buy them. I don't. I think leasing works very well for a lot of people. I just want my car to reflect how well I'm doing and if it doesn't do that, what's the point of spending that much money on it? Anyone else feel the same?
jeez, you can please some of the people some of the time... 
This is a bizarre thread - basically if you drive a £30k car you want everyone who sees you in it to know that you've dropped £30k cash, outright, on it?
Very PH.
I'm afraid most cars on the road are financed in one way or another, the value of a car is not an absolute statement of wealth.
This sounds a bit like chavs who like to display every penny they own at every waken moment in the form of huge amounts of tacky jewellery.
Very PH.
I'm afraid most cars on the road are financed in one way or another, the value of a car is not an absolute statement of wealth.
This sounds a bit like chavs who like to display every penny they own at every waken moment in the form of huge amounts of tacky jewellery.
SonicHedgeHog said:
I just want my car to reflect how well I'm doing and if it doesn't do that, what's the point of spending that much money on it? Anyone else feel the same?
I can't see the point in spending £35k on a family sized VW shopping trolley, much better metal out there for that money... in the driving and impressing stakes. The fact you can lease them for so little makes it even less attractive as a purchase, but that isn't really my point.Most of the people that you feel the need to impress will just see a Golf and assume you spend £20k on a diesel, and they won't care either.
1-series? Again the non-PHer will see a small BMW and think that maybe you aspire to a 3 or 5 series when you do a little better.
Get the car you want, and purchase/rent it using the method that suits you the best... which with a Golf R must surely be a lease deal and a TomTom SatNav?
SonicHedgeHog said:
Mmm...not really. Just why would you buy a new car for £30k when others can have the same car for £300pcm?
You wouldn't.If you just want to impress, drop your £30k on something that might impress non-PHer's too. AMV8's must be down to that price now, otherwise virtually any non-current 911?
SonicHedgeHog said:
The Golf R and M135i are two cars that fit my needs very well indeed. Fast, practical, easy to live with and the right image. Image, no matter what I tell myself is important. Whether we like it or not the car we drive says a lot about us. For me, both the Golf R and M135i would have said the right things about me were it not for the fact that it was possible to lease both of them for £300pcm or less. A £30-35k car for £300pcm. So I bust my balls to get a good job where I can afford a car in this price bracket while someone else stretches their budget to £300 a month and ends up driving the same car.
Now I know the obvious answer is I could lease one as well. Two problems. One, I don't want to lease. Two, I want to add options like sat nav which make the lease deals far less attractive.
I don't want this to sound like I want to restrict cars to people who can afford to buy them. I don't. I think leasing works very well for a lot of people. I just want my car to reflect how well I'm doing and if it doesn't do that, what's the point of spending that much money on it? Anyone else feel the same?
Wow.Now I know the obvious answer is I could lease one as well. Two problems. One, I don't want to lease. Two, I want to add options like sat nav which make the lease deals far less attractive.
I don't want this to sound like I want to restrict cars to people who can afford to buy them. I don't. I think leasing works very well for a lot of people. I just want my car to reflect how well I'm doing and if it doesn't do that, what's the point of spending that much money on it? Anyone else feel the same?
Just wow.
Dr Jekyll said:
SonicHedgeHog said:
Image, no matter what I tell myself is important.
This is where you are going wrong.Then there will be another stack who know and don't care.
Then there will be people like me who whatever car people drive, wonder (casually) not only if it's leased, but what other cars if any the driver has, what his wife or girlfriend drives, and what sort of house they have :-)
Also apart from a few petrolheads, people are wildly, wildly inaccurate in their estimates of car costs/values. I've had expensive cars (and watches for that matter) that friends/neighbours/colleagues thought were cheap, and cheap ones they thought were expensive.
It's all illusory. Get the car(s) you want.
SonicHedgeHog said:
The Golf R and M135i are two cars that fit my needs very well indeed. Fast, practical, easy to live with and the right image. Image, no matter what I tell myself is important. Whether we like it or not the car we drive says a lot about us. For me, both the Golf R and M135i would have said the right things about me were it not for the fact that it was possible to lease both of them for £300pcm or less. A £30-35k car for £300pcm. So I bust my balls to get a good job where I can afford a car in this price bracket while someone else stretches their budget to £300 a month and ends up driving the same car.
Now I know the obvious answer is I could lease one as well. Two problems. One, I don't want to lease. Two, I want to add options like sat nav which make the lease deals far less attractive.
I don't want this to sound like I want to restrict cars to people who can afford to buy them. I don't. I think leasing works very well for a lot of people. I just want my car to reflect how well I'm doing and if it doesn't do that, what's the point of spending that much money on it? Anyone else feel the same?
Amazing.Now I know the obvious answer is I could lease one as well. Two problems. One, I don't want to lease. Two, I want to add options like sat nav which make the lease deals far less attractive.
I don't want this to sound like I want to restrict cars to people who can afford to buy them. I don't. I think leasing works very well for a lot of people. I just want my car to reflect how well I'm doing and if it doesn't do that, what's the point of spending that much money on it? Anyone else feel the same?
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