RE: £7,395 996 'GT3': Spotted
Discussion
billzeebub said:
TTwiggy said:
billzeebub said:
M@1975 said:
The problem with these cars is that they are undoubtedly great value BUT generally those that will buy them will steadfastly not maintain them to the standard they require. Its very different to go and spend £7k on something fast from Ford or made in Japan and keep that on the road for a reasonable amount of cash. the original sale price of my car was nearly £90k, completely nuts to think I bought it at £15k, BUT it needed another £6k spent on it in my 2 years of ownership, I bought it with my eyes open and expecting £2k plus a year and thats what I got. Most people buying a £4k boxster or a £7k 911 just won't budget that to keep it on the road.
Ultimately this will lead to the price going up as fewer adn fewer cars will be looked after and kept running to a decent standard, chatting to Johnny over at Precision Porsche he was saying his next investment car might well be an early 3.4 C2 manual with fried egg lights as finding an original, low miler which has actually been correctly maintained is getting harder and harder.
ThisUltimately this will lead to the price going up as fewer adn fewer cars will be looked after and kept running to a decent standard, chatting to Johnny over at Precision Porsche he was saying his next investment car might well be an early 3.4 C2 manual with fried egg lights as finding an original, low miler which has actually been correctly maintained is getting harder and harder.
M@1975 said:
Loved my 996, great daily but it was an utter pain in the arse to live with. I've never had a car with so many small things break so consistently, for the last 7 months of ownership I never had a month where it wasn't going in for some work. After these cars get over the 70k mark they start to show the quality of the OEM kit for what it is. Perhaps I was overly picky on somethings that maybe I could have lived with but really thats not why I own cars.
Though this is a bargain on the surface it is realistically going to be a money pit. I guarantee the suspension will need a complete overhaul which is not a cheap operation, brakes are not a cheap replacement if both front and rear need doing, hoses will all need checking as at 70k plus they are prone top splitting, fans get dodgy at higher milage too.
If you have the money to have it as a side project / weekend dcar then go for it but I can think of better and more reliable ways of getting in a decent sports car for £7k.
I'd personally be looking more at the M3 market : http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
The problem is that as they age you'll end up playing catch up with the things that deteriorate. An M3 will be no different. Over 7 months isn't long enough to judge on. If you'd kept it 3 years or so then it would be a better yardstick. One of our TIPEC club members has been spending on his 99 996, hoses, rads, water pipes, A/C pipes, steering rack etc. But it is a 15 year old 70K car. Though this is a bargain on the surface it is realistically going to be a money pit. I guarantee the suspension will need a complete overhaul which is not a cheap operation, brakes are not a cheap replacement if both front and rear need doing, hoses will all need checking as at 70k plus they are prone top splitting, fans get dodgy at higher milage too.
If you have the money to have it as a side project / weekend dcar then go for it but I can think of better and more reliable ways of getting in a decent sports car for £7k.
I'd personally be looking more at the M3 market : http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
But we have members with early 911s & some of them run <1k PA, one has just had clutch & precautionary IMS done but that is the first major work in the 9 years of owning it.
Brakes aren't bad, on non-C4 cars then discs & pads are reasonably priced, not BMW cheap but then again they are more common than 996s.
J4CKO said:
Surely, if they get much cheaper it would be worth more as parts ?
Surely it's worth more than 7k in parts now?Depending on who rebuilt the engine, and to what extent, it's almost worth £7k for the engine alone.
J4CKO said:
What are the Tiptronics like to drive ?
Terrible.schmunk said:
Is the interior really that colour...?
It never photos well, and always looks better in the flesh.
TTwiggy said:
billzeebub said:
M@1975 said:
The problem with these cars is that they are undoubtedly great value BUT generally those that will buy them will steadfastly not maintain them to the standard they require. Its very different to go and spend £7k on something fast from Ford or made in Japan and keep that on the road for a reasonable amount of cash. the original sale price of my car was nearly £90k, completely nuts to think I bought it at £15k, BUT it needed another £6k spent on it in my 2 years of ownership, I bought it with my eyes open and expecting £2k plus a year and thats what I got. Most people buying a £4k boxster or a £7k 911 just won't budget that to keep it on the road.
Ultimately this will lead to the price going up as fewer adn fewer cars will be looked after and kept running to a decent standard, chatting to Johnny over at Precision Porsche he was saying his next investment car might well be an early 3.4 C2 manual with fried egg lights as finding an original, low miler which has actually been correctly maintained is getting harder and harder.
ThisUltimately this will lead to the price going up as fewer adn fewer cars will be looked after and kept running to a decent standard, chatting to Johnny over at Precision Porsche he was saying his next investment car might well be an early 3.4 C2 manual with fried egg lights as finding an original, low miler which has actually been correctly maintained is getting harder and harder.
green-blood said:
Bmw e46 cs/csl 3.6 straight 6 smg box - 30k and rising
Porsche 996 3.6 flat 6 tiptronic box - 8k (although the red interior is a bit tarts boudoir)
Surely the porsche is being undervalued and incorrectly maligned. The wing wouldnt be for me, but i dont like it on a genuine gt3 either.
A bit of a misleading comparison, in my book!Porsche 996 3.6 flat 6 tiptronic box - 8k (although the red interior is a bit tarts boudoir)
Surely the porsche is being undervalued and incorrectly maligned. The wing wouldnt be for me, but i dont like it on a genuine gt3 either.
The CSL is a limited edition car - 422 in the UK. You can purchase a standard E46 M3 for less than this GT3, and i'd argue the E46 M3 is one of the best looking M3s made. The 996...well..ain't.
The CSL's SMG may be a little unsophisticated by today's standards, but it is still an enjoyable flappy paddle. The Tiptronic is just a slushmatic; for anyone looking for the romantic 911 experience, this one isn't it.
A 911 is also a very sensitive car. You can purchase a Golf with 100k clock and gloss over the the fact the dampers are a bit knackered and brakes squeaky; it'll still work and that's all that matters. Again, you are not getting the 911 'experience' unless you overhaul the suspension.
dvs_dave said:
Isn't the tiptronic gearbox in these actually the Merc 5-speed auto box of the time with a Porsche map? Those boxes are super strong and saw service in biggest baddest AMG's (V12 TT) until fairly recently due to its enormormous torque capacity (700+ lb-ft)
That box was used in the later 3.6 996s. The earlier 3.4 996s used a different box (ZF I think).Kawasicki said:
That's going to rocket in value soon, they're not building any more you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The real spirit of 911 lies in the short wheel base....buy and put it in the garage...
+1 I bought my 1985 Carerra 3.2 only 4 years ago and it has trebled in value. Its only a matter of time that the 996 follows suit.The real spirit of 911 lies in the short wheel base....buy and put it in the garage...
St John Smythe said:
TTwiggy said:
billzeebub said:
M@1975 said:
The problem with these cars is that they are undoubtedly great value BUT generally those that will buy them will steadfastly not maintain them to the standard they require. Its very different to go and spend £7k on something fast from Ford or made in Japan and keep that on the road for a reasonable amount of cash. the original sale price of my car was nearly £90k, completely nuts to think I bought it at £15k, BUT it needed another £6k spent on it in my 2 years of ownership, I bought it with my eyes open and expecting £2k plus a year and thats what I got. Most people buying a £4k boxster or a £7k 911 just won't budget that to keep it on the road.
Ultimately this will lead to the price going up as fewer adn fewer cars will be looked after and kept running to a decent standard, chatting to Johnny over at Precision Porsche he was saying his next investment car might well be an early 3.4 C2 manual with fried egg lights as finding an original, low miler which has actually been correctly maintained is getting harder and harder.
ThisUltimately this will lead to the price going up as fewer adn fewer cars will be looked after and kept running to a decent standard, chatting to Johnny over at Precision Porsche he was saying his next investment car might well be an early 3.4 C2 manual with fried egg lights as finding an original, low miler which has actually been correctly maintained is getting harder and harder.
schmunk said:
hondansx said:
i'd argue the E46 M3 is one of the best looking M3s made. The 996...well..ain't.
Surely the worst 911 is still better looking than the best 3-series...?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff