Thoughts on this garage's standard of work.........?

Thoughts on this garage's standard of work.........?

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heebeegeetee

28,590 posts

247 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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NinjaPower said:
I wouldn't personally.

It's just an extra tailpipe which does nothing and is purely for decoration.
Which makes the car more attractive, including to thieves, thus enhancing the risk to the insurance company who would want a bit extra in the premiums. I feel I can guarantee there'll be something in the t&c's stating that mods such as this should be declared.

I don't wish to heap up on the OP, but I do think it's a shame to start fitting aftermarket junk on to a lovely new car, in other words, spending money to make the car worse at every step of modification. Can't help thinking that the welds on this exhaust will now start to rust, meaning that an exhaust that might have lasted the life of the car will now fail in 2-3 years (which might be more of an issue for the next owner rather than the OP).

Guys, please be aware, the after-market in the uk is still effectively as unregulated as the wild west. Imo 95% of the stuff available on the aftermarket is just plain junk, and to actually make an improvement to a modern car you will need to plan very carefully and be prepared to spend some proper money.

Adenauer

18,564 posts

235 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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terenceb said:
So what next op, nice set of M badges? They would really impress your mates.
Or maybe an illegally spaced cheap numberplate on your 50p Datsun that spells out SPA, eh Terry? laugh

terenceb

1,488 posts

170 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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But its mine Karl, dont think the other half would think the plate was a cheap geburstag pressie;)
BTW hows your COMPANY car going?


Edited by terenceb on Friday 16th January 12:54

Adenauer

18,564 posts

235 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Anyway, fairplay to the OP, if that's what you want then it's up to you, wouldn't be my cup of tea personally, but so what. smile

TheJimi

24,859 posts

242 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Gaz. said:
gizlaroc said:
To be fair though, he has most of the aholes summed up pretty well.


You can see why he has only posted 3 times in the 11 years of signing up.
What a bunch of absolute s we have on Pistonheads these days.
On the money.
Bang on.

Which is shame frown

There really are some really not nice people about on PH these days.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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KFC said:
If you take a poverty spec engine (of any car at all) and.........
I like what you did there, clever little put down. rolleyes

greggy50

6,161 posts

190 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Reading this thread has made me realise they are a massive number of absolute wkers now posting on this site.

Don't see what the OP did at wrong and personally agree it looks better with the two exhausts, also its his car he can wtf he wants to be honest don't get why he warranted abuse for asking a honest question...

Matttracker

630 posts

146 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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There's a lot of rubbish on here spouted by people who think they really know it all.
A 40k car is not really poverty spec, it's just the engine he wanted to do the job he needed.
There's nothing wrong with modifying it to your tastes he's clearly not making a m4 replica or even a 435 but if he did who cares.


KFC

3,687 posts

129 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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gizlaroc said:
KFC said:
If you take a poverty spec engine (of any car at all) and.........
I like what you did there, clever little put down. rolleyes
Its not a put down, its a fact. There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying the cheapest one in a range if thats what you want. It just stinks of not really being the one you wanted though, when you try and tart it up to look like something else.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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KFC said:
gizlaroc said:
KFC said:
If you take a poverty spec engine (of any car at all) and.........
I like what you did there, clever little put down. rolleyes
Its not a put down, its a fact. There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying the cheapest one in a range if thats what you want. It just stinks of not really being the one you wanted though, when you try and tart it up to look like something else.
OK.

Poverty is the word that made me think it was a put down. I must have read you wrong.

greggy50

6,161 posts

190 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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KFC said:
Its not a put down, its a fact. There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying the cheapest one in a range if thats what you want. It just stinks of not really being the one you wanted though, when you try and tart it up to look like something else.
If read thread he purchased exactly the car he wanted ffs
He had £42k if he wanted a 335i sure he could have got one for that he wanted a 420d as sits in traffic so no point in a petrol but just wanted symmetry of two exhausts at the back struggle to see how that's hard for people to understand...

MacD1

150 posts

122 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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titansport said:
@thelawnet- Wrong. That wasn’t the question. Was it? Re-read. :0)

@LaurasOtherHalf- 435i is £300 more than a 420d? Possibly dependent on spec. So you’ve wrong. Notwithstanding, your statement doesn’t make sense in response to the question posed. Re-read. Perhaps you've been slapped about by her indoors so you struggle to though?

@Tremaine- See below. Don’t want, nor need a 435i thanks.

@Zeduffman- it’s a £41,000'ish car. But close.

@Gazza285- “Shallow”? “Vanity”? See below. Shallow- definitely not. Vanity- debatebale. Your comment portrays you as a silly immature child though that cannot grasp sociology. Go read a book.

@Sump- Elaborate?

@Ninajapower- it was planned the 2nd outlet would be routed either behind or in front of the back box. Not underneath so that came as a surprise.

@Fazerboy- “hundreds of designers and engineers “? On the design of a back box and diffuser? You’re an idiot Frazer and clearly lack intellect.

@Kungfupanda- you’ll have to toss a coin up there bud. Do let us know how you get on.

@Taz- don’t compare me to your brethren my friend. Mobile phone shops aren’t my habitat and you and I are miles apart in more way then one.

@ Rallycross- good. First question with any real consideration. I admire the symmetrical look of the 435 exhaust and feel, which is obviously subjective, the dual pipe improves the rear “look” of my car. Re the “crappy diesel” comment- really? Have you driven one? Grow up a little chump.

@Gary Glitter- the whole drive of about ¼ acre needs doing. Well spotted though. You’re still mong though. Do you like my car btw?

@ Jamieduff- Thanks. Finally. A comment related to the post. You’re comments carry weight and refer me to something I will consider.

@Catfish- Ta. Yes it does seem expensive from what others have conveyed on other forums and for 2 hours work not bad going for them!

@ JohnnyB- Thanks. A grown up. The dual outlet was not to look like a 335/435. It was to add symmetry to the rear. When the back box is done next week opinion will be welcome.

@ eliot- why? Do you not get out much? World scare you? Afford a 435i? You’re funny. Ha ha. Believe me had I wanted one, I would have one. Talking about money and affordability- you have my attention what vehicle do you own? :0)

@ Phillip- Ta. Not sure why they decided to route it where they did, however before they began cutting certainly gave the impression they knew what they were doing.

@terence- No bud. Car has enough M badge. 4x wheels, 2x side, 1x steering wheel and 2x door inserts. I’d rather my car impressed your wife/girlfriend- which I suspect it would. Also, yes my mates like my BMW. :0)

@ Rawwr- Agree. Baffling how they can pass of work to that level. They’ve been in business a good few years from what I understand.

@Monty- did consider that brand however there didn’t appear to be a 4 series version yet.

@Britishracingreen- you’re a bitter little chap. Aren’t you. Why? Jealous perhaps? :0)

@ Limpet- agreed. As I type this nothing is more evident then the envy, bitterness and resentment of some of the people on here. Very sad people. Life must be very hard for them as some are clearly troubled.

@ Vee- suspect the fitter rushed it and had little experience routing pipework around exhausts to maximise flow. Was asked to sit in the waiting area due to insurance liabilities. Prior to commencing the work thorough instructions were given.

@mwstewert- unfortunately not seen any F series 335/435 back boxes go across eBay yet and cannot justify £700 at the dealers for a new one. Getting a custom one made for £350 from a well respected exhaust fitting/manufacturing company now.

@ Steveo3002- thanks for comment, glad there are others able to consider the thread and post relevantly.

@thatdude- M4 has different exhaust, body panels and wheels. But you’d know that having a “passing interest” in cars. Wouldn’t you?

@ Stottyevo- thanks. world has some tts, fortunately they are in the minority. Tends to come down to resentment, bitterness and primarily jealousy. That’s life.

@Berlintaxi- thanks. Agreed. I have no doubt whatsoever those people have particularly sad and miserable existences.

@DrTre- thanks for relevant comment. Agreed!

@Vaud- thanks. Spoke to them today. See below.

@ MrBarry123- thanks and agreed. Definitely no 435i badges.

@ Sunbeam- thanks. Still feel its expensive for the result.

@ Magictorch- thanks.

@N3il123- thanks.

@StJohnSmythe- £600-£700 from BMW.

@ Fastra- no. As per Ninjapower.

@Mrbarry123- debatable.

@ Richard G- thanks and great useful post. Now done! Ta.

@ JohnnyBv8- good idea. Would have considered it but cannot live with it so low. Worried it will catch a speed hump.

@ KFC- Thanks. It a nice car. A 435 was an option. As for reference could have been an RS4 had I wanted to. The sensible choice prevailed.

@ Troubledsoule- you referring to me? I am here.

@ Daston- I’d have paid more for a proper job.

@Riknos- thanks. Couldn’t have described that better myself.


To be frank fellas and the odd girl (in drag) I do favour the symmetrical look of 435i rear. What I do not favor nor stomach is the 18mpg on the commute to work in stop start traffic. This 420d is doing 34-35mpg. For the 5% of the time the extra 435i power can be used I could not justify the extra outlay in petrol nor intial cost on a loaded car.

I came from an M135i so know how wonderful but thirsty that turbo petrol engine is:-


The loaded 420d I ordered fits the bill for my needs and the justification to opt for a diesel this time was in my mind the correct decision.

To those who think I want to “imitate” a 435i, you are wrong. To those who comment about “M” badges your comments are immature and actually quite pathetic. You clearly have difficulties linking aspects of life in your little minds so imagine life is a struggle. Probably filled with hate.

I feel sorry for some of those who have commented above as life must be a very dark place for you. You know who you are.

Out of 43 persons who responded, 13/14 comments were unrelated to the question posed and the post. Special “shout out” to “Taz”, Laura’s bh, Gazza and Gary Glitter- something struck me with those “names”- they all refer to others with “issues” of some sort and clearly so do the posters. Some troubled, some bitter and most problematic. Shame.

Life can be hard chaps but carry on like that and it will get worse. Much worse. A very dark place to be.

To the other 30 people who commented positively. Thanks for the input, ideas and direction. Glad the majority have sense and IQs of over 32, good news. Opted for a new custom back box with some completely non-OEM tailpipes (not quad). Will post when completed. Cheers to all of the grown ups. :0)

Other good news- the garage have refunded 50% of the price which I think is fair to both parties. Leaves me with a better taste in my mouth. Whilst the garage did offer to correct the work, from reference to the helpful poster on this site and others, decided to look elsewhere for a quality job. Cheers!

Finally, and just for my special friends above.........









Edited by titansport on Thursday 15th January 19:18
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Jabosoc

2,335 posts

230 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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gizlaroc said:
What a bunch of absolute s we have on Pistonheads these days.
This.

I was reading through an old thread just a few days ago, although I don't recall which one or what for, and it struck me how polite and helpful everyone was.

It's a terrible shame.

hman

7,487 posts

193 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Why didnt the OP inspect the work after it was completed and then reject it until he was satisfied? He gave clear instructions which weren't followed so payment shouldnt have been made until it was rectified.

PS. I may have missed the bit when it all got sorted as I skipped from page 1 to this one



PhillipM

6,515 posts

188 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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Don't know where you are in the country but if you want the second pipe redoing so it comes out of the rear silencer to give you clearance for the panels to go back on, drop me a message.

titansport

Original Poster:

8 posts

226 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Wow. Thank you to all who contributed to the above with positive and well meant comments. It's good to know there are some decent folks out there.

For those not so well meaning, heres an update which I'm sure you will enjoy.

OEM back box taken off and sold. Garage who carried out the modification refunded 50% of the original fee. Modified back box sold so I broken even.

In any event, new custom back box designed, constructed and now installed.







Very subjective topic, however from a looks perspective- much better imo

Next, felt compelled to treat it to some new wheels.............





Wheel center caps on the way and car is starting to look great. Very happy with its looks, the drive and so far the whole package.

Thanks for reading. And the interest.


Ali_T

3,379 posts

256 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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rallycross said:
Why would you buy a crappy 2.0 diesel.?
Eft...

olivebrown

137 posts

109 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Looks great now with it sorted and new wheels cool

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

149 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Nice, love the wheels. Can't go wrong with them tbh.

What's it sound like now btw?

Joeguard1990

1,181 posts

125 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Lets not forget that if the OP wants more power 440Nm of torque can easily be had and that's without supporting mods.

The negative comments do make me laugh. You do realise that there a lot of cars faster than a 435i that £40K would buy right?

Except the OP had a choice and went for the sensible choice...