RE: SEAT Leon Cupra 280: PH Fleet

[neil1jnr]

PK0001 said:

TNH said:

Personally I think the reason you don't see so many of these around compared to previous generations is because it doesn't appear much cheaper than the Golf alternative. And most people would rather drive a VW than a Seat.

Agree

Plus depreciation, looks and image and lease deals.

Disagree completely, I can't understand why there aren't many around?! First of all, the Cupra 280, performance wise, is on par with the Golf R, not the GTI. Second of all, it may not seem cheaper but in reality it is much cheaper than a GTI PP, let alone a Golf R, for example;

Leon Cupra 280 3dr DSG - £22,863.99

http://www.finance4cars.co.uk/PCP_Car_Finance_Calc...

VW Golf GTI PP 3dr DSG - £25,885.80

http://www.finance4cars.co.uk/PCP_Car_Finance_Calc...

Those are broker prices before any options and the Cupra 280 is better specced as standard. I have driven the Cupra 280 and the Golf R (unfortunatley not the GTI PP) both with DSG and as a driving experience I preferred the Cupra because of the wonders of the diff. The R was better at acceleration from 1st gear and has a slightly nicer interior and launch control is a blast. The 4wd drive part is not something I value, yes, like for like against FWD the traction will be better, but I haven't had an issue at all in the wet in my FWD drive cars in the past, including my 300lbs ft of torque Leon I had previously, as long as you have the right tyres on then you don't need 4wd. I imagine the GTI PP drives the same as the Cupra 280 albeit slower.

Personally, I just can't see past the Cupra, both Golfs (GTI and R) are too expensive for what they are in comparison with the Cupra. Yes the interior of the Golf's are slightly better but the Cupra interior is perfectly fine, it is genuinely really nice. Softer plastics and gloss black plastic finishes alone does not justify a £3k price difference (not to mention a 50bhp defecit)!

In regard to depreciation, at the above prices I can't see the Cupra losing any more value than the Golf GTI will. I really wanted a Cupra 280 last year but there weren't any deals on at the time and opted for a Fiesta ST3 with the MP215 upgrade because it was just that good.

Both the Golf and the Cupra are great cars but the smart money is on the Cupra 280.

Edited by neil1jnr on Wednesday 21st January 09:49

[leighcurran]

AJB88 said:

Nah when I said we flashed back to stock I mean all traces of REVO were removed and original file flashed over the top.

To get REVO back I had to go back again after and get it all put back on.

All work was done at REVO HQ as im still running "test or beta" files.

What kind of output do you get with REVO stage 2. Stage one is around 370 isn't it?

[AJB88]

Yeh its not been near a RR yet.. need to get some other kit fitted like Peron Intercooler and bigger VWR intake first.

[atom111]

I don't think a diesel would help it's sale, it doesn't have the same history and pedigree of the Golf GTI for example, and if there is only a few quid in it on a PCP/Lease I'd expect most would pick the Golf. The Seat has a nice interior but it's not a Golf Interior which is a much beter place to be with higher quality materials.

I've had mine a few months now have changed the air intake and the tyres to the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, don't plan a remap maybe exahust to get some aural goodness and maybe intercooler. I like the fact it's understated isn't showy at all, and it came with adaptive dampers and also the LSD.

It's been on track couple of times and a few more planned next year, total joy to drive on track.

I quite like the fact you don't see many too

[AJB88]

atom111 said:

I don't think a diesel would help it's sale, it doesn't have the same history and pedigree of the Golf GTI for example, and if there is only a few quid in it on a PCP/Lease I'd expect most would pick the Golf. The Seat has a nice interior but it's not a Golf Interior which is a much beter place to be with higher quality materials.

I've had mine a few months now have changed the air intake and the tyres to the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, don't plan a remap maybe exahust to get some aural goodness and maybe intercooler. I like the fact it's understated isn't showy at all, and it came with adaptive dampers and also the LSD.

It's been on track couple of times and a few more planned next year, total joy to drive on track.

I quite like the fact you don't see many too

Don't get a Turbo back exhaust if you don't want mapping as the TSI engines don't like bolt on stuff without mapping.

[atom111]

Thank is didn't realise that, in that case I'd just get a cat back.

[AJB88]

Yeh they can run funny.

[Syndrome280]

I have a Grey 3 door with the Sub8 pack coming in March, interesting to know it might be one of the first few in the country.

As far as styling goes I think they are much more interesting to look at than the Golf and while the R might be faster from the the lights due to the 4wd advantage the back to back tests by Autocar and Auto Express seem to show the Cupra is a more agile and quicker car once off the line.
That being said the Golf R is a great machine and I wouldn't knock someone for owning one... I would just prefer the Cupra on my drive

[atom111]

I don't want it running funny

Edited by atom111 on Wednesday 21st January 23:41

[Matt Bird]

AJB88 said:

2smoke said:

I wonder if you might have reconsidered taking the Leon home for Christmas if that had a few Revo mods like the ST...

STAGE 1 SEAT, LEON MK3, 2.0 TSI
Power (bhp) Torque (lbft)
Stock 276 bhp 258 lbft
REVO Stage 1 Software 346 - 371 bhp 330 - 360 lbft
NOTE: Power is dependant on Fuel Quality, Performance Settings and Conditions

Silly figures for FWD but worth a punt whilst it's still on the PH fleet!?

I've got the Stage2 file on my Cupra 280 now and compared to my previous MK2 Leon Cupra R with Stage2+ tune its like a rocket.

We were really keen to try this but unfortunately SEAT didn't want any alterations to standard. Shame. It's damn quick like this so remapped must be hilarious!