Discussion
I don't agree with the idea that the quality of sound an engine makes has anything much to do with its volume, anyway.
I suppose these "play the engine note through the speakers" systems should be the best of all worlds for those who like loud cars because it means they can have their engine as loud as they like without annoying everyone else.
I suppose these "play the engine note through the speakers" systems should be the best of all worlds for those who like loud cars because it means they can have their engine as loud as they like without annoying everyone else.
I don't mind it loud but only if it makes a nice noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHq9Xj-b1Q0
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm
Otherwise, I prefer it subtle.
Diesels on the other hand are like childern; best seen and not heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHq9Xj-b1Q0
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm
Otherwise, I prefer it subtle.
Diesels on the other hand are like childern; best seen and not heard.
GravelMachineGun said:
danjama said:
Surely you're on the wrong website?
No like I said. I love driving and I love a great sounded car. But I don't get why you'd want that all the time.After the rush at work the last thing I'd want is to start something that sounds like a V10 F1 engine.
GravelMachineGun said:
What is wrong with the standard exhaust the a manufacturer fits?
Nothing depending on what an individual wants.For someone wanting more power out of their car, oem exhausts are generally restrictive as they're designed to comply with emissions etc
If you were say putting a bigger turbo on your car you'd be likely fitting a new manifold and exhaust system too.
Some people obviously just find oem exhaust a little quieter than they'd like hence changing them.
I do think some oem exhausts sound nice though on certain cars. In terms of hatchbacks I reckon the abarth 500s and John Wooper Works minis sound decent standard.
You could have the best of both worlds with one of these http://www.soundracer.se. Make your little shopping trolley sound like it has a 357cu small block chevy whilst driving but no one outside would be none the wiser. Sure it'll be all noise and no go, but you can't have everything!!
GravelMachineGun said:
No like I said. I love driving and I love a great sounded car. But I don't get why you'd want that all the time.
After the rush at work the last thing I'd want is to start something that sounds like a V10 F1 engine.
Why not consider that some people are the opposite and after spending too much of a day in a quiet office look forward to jumping in the car and experiencing a louder than usual exhaust/engine to enjoy the drive home? After the rush at work the last thing I'd want is to start something that sounds like a V10 F1 engine.
I also don't like the car modifying snobbery that goes on, the oh it's a £100k Lamborghini so it can make as much noise as possible where as someone with for argument sake a hot hatch with a cat back exhaust is told they are a chav/attention seeker/knob.It's clear that both owners have largely the same intentions!
When driving I like all of my senses to be catered for and sound is important, as a result I cannot stand cars where I have to look at the rev counter to check the engine as actually running.
These days it's handy that there are systems available for you to install a flap so that on those occasions you want peace you can have it , when you want to hear everything you can!!!
The exhaust of a car has never bothered me, no matter how unsuitable and farty. Mechanical enjoyment, however dubious, is after all why the majority of us love the motorcar...It's the bloody ridiculous booming sound systems/speakers and the type of people feel it appropriate to inflict their lack of class/taste on others that I find completely unacceptable. Police/Councils should be having a stern chat (and issuing confiscation notices to the worst offenders) for this lack of social cohesion. A blind eye is turned in the same way I see majority of Police officers happily driving/walking past vehicles parked on Zig Zags at crossings etc.
aka_kerrly said:
I also don't like the car modifying snobbery that goes on, the oh it's a £100k Lamborghini so it can make as much noise as possible where as someone with for argument sake a hot hatch with a cat back exhaust is told they are a chav/attention seeker/knob.It's clear that both owners have largely the same intentions!
Only difference is one car was designed to be all shouty and one car wasn't, that second car is someone who is trying to be all shouty. That is annoying. GravelMachineGun said:
aka_kerrly said:
I also don't like the car modifying snobbery that goes on, the oh it's a £100k Lamborghini so it can make as much noise as possible where as someone with for argument sake a hot hatch with a cat back exhaust is told they are a chav/attention seeker/knob.It's clear that both owners have largely the same intentions!
Only difference is one car was designed to be all shouty and one car wasn't, that second car is someone who is trying to be all shouty. That is annoying. In terms of loud noises that annoy me I find every sodding 50CC moped far far far more irritating than any car exhaust I have ever heard. Those things need to be more regulated more not a modified car with an exhaust that has the EU/TUV/appropriate certificate for road use.
aka_kerrly said:
Not annoying in the slightest, in my opinion it's reasonable for someone who doesn't have a Lamborghini but appreciates a louder exhaust to be allowed to fit one to their choice of car. If it isn't louder exhausts do you get annoyed by other modifications that possibly lead to increased attention?
In terms of loud noises that annoy me I find every sodding 50CC moped far far far more irritating than any car exhaust I have ever heard. Those things need to be more regulated more not a modified car with an exhaust that has the EU/TUV/appropriate certificate for road use.
There does seem to be double standards when it comes to modifying cars, and stereotypes etc.In terms of loud noises that annoy me I find every sodding 50CC moped far far far more irritating than any car exhaust I have ever heard. Those things need to be more regulated more not a modified car with an exhaust that has the EU/TUV/appropriate certificate for road use.
Someone tearing down the road in a TVR with straight pipes that the owners has put on and it's ok, but a guy with a modified Golf R32 is a chav.
What some people fail to comprehend is that regardless of the car (and modifications made) all the people are ultimately the same, they're people that love cars, love modifying them, and often can only make do with what they can afford. If there were no financial restraints then obviously people that might drive a modified hatchback would love something better.
There's a guy on here (I'm sure) that has or had a heavily modified Nissan R35 GTR, he's obviously not a chav, but someone modifies a little glanza and they're immediately a chav.
A car or the modifications doesn't necessarily mean the owner is a chav. There are rich chavs that ruin expensive cars. But unfortunately perceptions are that if a "cheap2 car is modified and has an exhaust they are "stupid", "chav", Boy racer", but someone in a Bentley that's been chavved up is classy
Edited by pops and bangs on Tuesday 20th January 16:00
aka_kerrly said:
GravelMachineGun said:
aka_kerrly said:
I also don't like the car modifying snobbery that goes on, the oh it's a £100k Lamborghini so it can make as much noise as possible where as someone with for argument sake a hot hatch with a cat back exhaust is told they are a chav/attention seeker/knob.It's clear that both owners have largely the same intentions!
If it isn't louder exhausts do you get annoyed by other modifications that possibly lead to increased attention?It is just the loud noise.
Sometimes I like things to be quiet.
wolves_wanderer said:
GravelMachineGun said:
What is wrong with the standard exhaust the a manufacturer fits?
Too quietI actually miss a decent exhaust note nowadays and because a fair amount of cars are diesels now and manufacturers chase low emissions/economy its very rare a hear a car with a nice exhaust note.
As an example both my old M3/Z4M were as quiet as a mouse at idle and I just prefer a car to be a little more vocal if its running a bit of power.
That was one of the things I loved about my TVR even at idle it sounded fast and I loved that about it and it was the same when I was in Florida I couldn't get enough of listening to all the V8`s rumbling along.
kambites said:
I don't agree with the idea that the quality of sound an engine makes has anything much to do with its volume, anyway.
Hmm. My experience of buying aftermarket exhausts has been that I have had to reject the systems I most liked the tone of because they were simply too loud. There does seem to be some compromise between the quality of sound and the degree of silencing. The exhaust on the wife's 350Z sounds lovely, but then she had no qualms about it being noisy. The original exhaust had rotted, and a replacement stainless steel one which looked and sounded nicer was cheaper than an OEM one.
aka_kerrly said:
So in summary when YOU want the world to be quiet it should be quiet, when YOU want to hear noise it is acceptable.
Double standards!
Well when I'm sat in a restaurant eating a nice meal and then a stupid Civic Type R drives past in first gear so everyone can hear him yes it annoys me. Double standards!
When it is on a race track I like it extremely loud.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff