RE: Ford announces Mustang pricing
Discussion
Matt Harper said:
Wait, what? Why? How bizarre - what on earth is the rationale for that? Wonder what they do to the motor to make it generate less power and can it be reversed?
I would imagine (no basis of fact here) to get the CO2 emissions as low as possible so the total fleet CO2 emissions (not something they are daft enough to worry about across the pond) are affected as little as possible. You should be able to get at least some of it back with an ECU re-map.PanzerCommander said:
Matt Harper said:
Wait, what? Why? How bizarre - what on earth is the rationale for that? Wonder what they do to the motor to make it generate less power and can it be reversed?
I would imagine (no basis of fact here) to get the CO2 emissions as low as possible so the total fleet CO2 emissions (not something they are daft enough to worry about across the pond) are affected as little as possible. You should be able to get at least some of it back with an ECU re-map.Chrysler even moved the steering box off the subframe and bolted to the chassis rail to get it over, tended to rip off after a bit, oil filters relocated to the inner wing with remote, hand brake/shifter still set up for LHD etc.
Exhaust manifolds can be a big problem on V8's at the best of times and can really hurt power if not optomised.
Matt Harper said:
PanzerCommander said:
The UK car is down on power compared to the US car.Hi,
the lower power output could be mapping but also could be the fact that I believe US outputs are based on the crank and not the power transmitted to the wheel. Hence why Top Gear did a test on a GT500 and dyno'ed it at 450hp instead of 500HP. The quoted HP would have been correct but only at the crank and not at the road. Fear not though, I have a 2014 S197 Mustang and it is quoted at 420hp and doesn't have any of the enhancements of the 2015 so it can be easily put back, could be as simple as air filters etc.
the lower power output could be mapping but also could be the fact that I believe US outputs are based on the crank and not the power transmitted to the wheel. Hence why Top Gear did a test on a GT500 and dyno'ed it at 450hp instead of 500HP. The quoted HP would have been correct but only at the crank and not at the road. Fear not though, I have a 2014 S197 Mustang and it is quoted at 420hp and doesn't have any of the enhancements of the 2015 so it can be easily put back, could be as simple as air filters etc.
bicycleshorts said:
Matt Harper said:
PanzerCommander said:
The UK car is down on power compared to the US car.10 minutes?
mwyatt82 said:
Hi,
the lower power output could be mapping but also could be the fact that I believe US outputs are based on the crank and not the power transmitted to the wheel. Hence why Top Gear did a test on a GT500 and dyno'ed it at 450hp instead of 500HP. The quoted HP would have been correct but only at the crank and not at the road. Fear not though, I have a 2014 S197 Mustang and it is quoted at 420hp and doesn't have any of the enhancements of the 2015 so it can be easily put back, could be as simple as air filters etc.
AFAIK all manufacturers base power outputs on BHP at the flywheel, hence on Topgear a 500bhp car dynoed at around 450 at the wheels. Large V8s with heavy duty transmissions, diffs and gearboxes can lose 50-70hp if measured at the wheels.the lower power output could be mapping but also could be the fact that I believe US outputs are based on the crank and not the power transmitted to the wheel. Hence why Top Gear did a test on a GT500 and dyno'ed it at 450hp instead of 500HP. The quoted HP would have been correct but only at the crank and not at the road. Fear not though, I have a 2014 S197 Mustang and it is quoted at 420hp and doesn't have any of the enhancements of the 2015 so it can be easily put back, could be as simple as air filters etc.
So I don't think being a few BHP down on the US models is because of how the power is measured. It's either a typo or due to the RHD set up. Could also be a more silenced exhaust?
SFO said:
I called Ford this am:
1. to get in the queue, you pay a £1000 non refundable deposit (deposited at Ford UK), even though you have not seen the car, let alone driven it
2. dealer (Ford UK owned) said that they expected delivery around January 2016 ..
3. demo cars will arrive in the UK "in the next few months" .. not any more definitive than that
4. if you order now with your colour combination and spec, it won't actually be built by Ford according to when you submitted your deposit
5. Ford will just build cars with popular colour combinations and spec, and if they happen to build one that matches your order, you can have the car!!!
Luckliy, there's aren't many options, and I suspect most will tick 1 option which is the "Custom Pack"
Amazing!
Having said all that, very well priced, a 5.0 V8 convertible with manual gearbox with Custom Pack is £39,385 OTR.
I spoke with my local Ford dealer. They have told me and confirmed in writing via email that the £1000 deposit is fully refundable if you don't want the vehicle following test drive when they come available.1. to get in the queue, you pay a £1000 non refundable deposit (deposited at Ford UK), even though you have not seen the car, let alone driven it
2. dealer (Ford UK owned) said that they expected delivery around January 2016 ..
3. demo cars will arrive in the UK "in the next few months" .. not any more definitive than that
4. if you order now with your colour combination and spec, it won't actually be built by Ford according to when you submitted your deposit
5. Ford will just build cars with popular colour combinations and spec, and if they happen to build one that matches your order, you can have the car!!!
Luckliy, there's aren't many options, and I suspect most will tick 1 option which is the "Custom Pack"
Amazing!
Having said all that, very well priced, a 5.0 V8 convertible with manual gearbox with Custom Pack is £39,385 OTR.
PompeyPaul said:
SFO said:
I called Ford this am:
1. to get in the queue, you pay a £1000 non refundable deposit (deposited at Ford UK), even though you have not seen the car, let alone driven it
2. dealer (Ford UK owned) said that they expected delivery around January 2016 ..
3. demo cars will arrive in the UK "in the next few months" .. not any more definitive than that
4. if you order now with your colour combination and spec, it won't actually be built by Ford according to when you submitted your deposit
5. Ford will just build cars with popular colour combinations and spec, and if they happen to build one that matches your order, you can have the car!!!
Luckliy, there's aren't many options, and I suspect most will tick 1 option which is the "Custom Pack"
Amazing!
Having said all that, very well priced, a 5.0 V8 convertible with manual gearbox with Custom Pack is £39,385 OTR.
I spoke with my local Ford dealer. They have told me and confirmed in writing via email that the £1000 deposit is fully refundable if you don't want the vehicle following test drive when they come available.1. to get in the queue, you pay a £1000 non refundable deposit (deposited at Ford UK), even though you have not seen the car, let alone driven it
2. dealer (Ford UK owned) said that they expected delivery around January 2016 ..
3. demo cars will arrive in the UK "in the next few months" .. not any more definitive than that
4. if you order now with your colour combination and spec, it won't actually be built by Ford according to when you submitted your deposit
5. Ford will just build cars with popular colour combinations and spec, and if they happen to build one that matches your order, you can have the car!!!
Luckliy, there's aren't many options, and I suspect most will tick 1 option which is the "Custom Pack"
Amazing!
Having said all that, very well priced, a 5.0 V8 convertible with manual gearbox with Custom Pack is £39,385 OTR.
xRIEx said:
Ford Home Page > New Cars > Mustang > Performance.
10 minutes?
Helpfully the page at the top of Google doesn't mention that page so I was looking around here like a dick:10 minutes?
http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/FutureVehicles/Ford-Mus...
Are there any UK MPG figures available for the V8 version?
Is real-world mid-20s realistic these days or is it likely to still be teens? I imagine NEDC combined 33ish would equate to mid-20s (from experience)
I've seen the US figures, but knowing these tests are only for comparison and I've never looked at US figures before it's not much help.
Is real-world mid-20s realistic these days or is it likely to still be teens? I imagine NEDC combined 33ish would equate to mid-20s (from experience)
I've seen the US figures, but knowing these tests are only for comparison and I've never looked at US figures before it's not much help.
celicawrc said:
What have they done to the rear lights?
Why has it still got the silly US reflectors in the bumpers?
If they are all built in the same factory, why have we not got every wheel and accessory option the yanks have!?
Here you go...Why has it still got the silly US reflectors in the bumpers?
If they are all built in the same factory, why have we not got every wheel and accessory option the yanks have!?
"The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith
Burnham said:
OK, can someone who's successfully used the configurator help me out? Or is it just a dire user experience?
Why does it not let you select the V8, or retain any of the options that you select?
Did you choose the right model initially? It's the first "option" on the left-hand menu.Why does it not let you select the V8, or retain any of the options that you select?
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