RE: Ford announces Mustang pricing

RE: Ford announces Mustang pricing

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iMiM

87 posts

121 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Looks like we're getting the GT performance pack standard hence the hideous wheels.

Mike_Mac

664 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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iMiM said:
Looks like we're getting the GT performance pack standard hence the hideous wheels.
Custom Pack changes those for 19" 'Lustre Nickel' Alloys - which annoyingly doesn't then show on the UK configurator. It does on the US one though and based on that they look good!

Mike_Mac

664 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Centurion07 said:
Mike_Mac said:
The point when a customer's withdrawal would actually incur costs is when it should become non-refundable.
As I already mentioned, I'm fairly sure that is actually the case anyway.
Seems that way to me from my experience talking to dealers too. Some dealers just seem to be trying to get more of a commitment by stating it's non-refundable.

unsprung said:
"All Mustangs will be built at Ford’s Flat Rock, Michigan, assembly plant, including right-hand-drive models."
Excellent! I kind of prefer the thought that mine would have been built in the US!

sumpoil said:
With regard to the possible future 500bhp model, I believe Autocar said the V8 will be 'upgraded' to 500bhp. I can't quite work out whether this means the standard V8 model will become 500bhp, or the more powerful cars will be a premium model.
I read that too and asked about it. Both dealers I spoke to didn't know for sure, although both believed it would be a special edition of the future. There's already articles on t'internet talking about the Flat-crank V8 Ford is developing for a GT500 version...

DSLiverpool said:
Dealers asking for deposits are making hay in an environment they don't come across often and if you ask who the deposit is with I am sure it's a dealer deposit - the only inconsistency is between dealer groups who don't have to be consistent as they are rivals.
The fact that people are getting acknowledgement e-mails from Ford USA suggests it's more than a Dealer-level waiting list though. I'll be interested to see if I get one...

Claudia Skies

1,098 posts

116 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Mike_Mac said:
Some dealers just seem to be trying to get more of a commitment by stating it's non-refundable.
Not surprised they want to keep they timewasters at bay. No way will all the people getting excited on here actually follow through and buy the car.

DSLiverpool

14,743 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Mike_Mac said:
DSLiverpool said:
Dealers asking for deposits are making hay in an environment they don't come across often and if you ask who the deposit is with I am sure it's a dealer deposit - the only inconsistency is between dealer groups who don't have to be consistent as they are rivals.
The fact that people are getting acknowledgement e-mails from Ford USA suggests it's more than a Dealer-level waiting list though. I'll be interested to see if I get one...
I bet that's arranged by the dealer and is more of a "thanks for your interest" if it says "Thank you for your deposit etc etc I would be amazed" - if anyones had a FORD COMPANY email can they divulge please.

I firmly believe if say Evans Halshaw have an allocation of 200 cars then what they are doing with deposits is an internal thing to see how many to order as no dealer wants slow moving expensive metal hanging around.


Edited by DSLiverpool on Tuesday 27th January 11:25


Edited by DSLiverpool on Tuesday 27th January 12:04


Edited by DSLiverpool on Tuesday 27th January 12:05

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Claudia Skies said:
Not surprised they want to keep they timewasters at bay. No way will all the people getting excited on here actually follow through and buy the car.
So that is why they are asking for deposits. Should be £5000 I think. anyone can russell up a monkey or a grand, just so they can say they have ordered a Mustang....

Mike_Mac

664 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Claudia Skies said:
Mike_Mac said:
Some dealers just seem to be trying to get more of a commitment by stating it's non-refundable.
Not surprised they want to keep the time-wasters at bay. No way will all the people getting excited on here actually follow through and buy the car.
As said, again, putting a grand down is not 'time-wasting'. If I, as one example wink, keep back the money to buy this car and then, many months later, choose to withdraw, then the only time wasted would have been mine. I am not a powerfully built Company Director and £1K isn't a light commitment put down on a whim (or for bragging rights?).

It costs Ford nothing to take deposits now; allowing refunds (to a point) will attract many more people to submit a deposit who otherwise wouldn't. Even if some withdraw subsequently, I'll bet many more wouldn't and Ford still has the interest accrued from their deposits, so isn't out of pocket (and everyone else moves up the queue, which is nice!).

This would be a win/win for Ford IMO.

Edited by Mike_Mac on Tuesday 27th January 11:49

Trif

748 posts

173 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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V8 FOU said:
So that is why they are asking for deposits. Should be £5000 I think. anyone can russell up a monkey or a grand, just so they can say they have ordered a Mustang....
Who would waste £1k on pretending to order a Mustang? And the chance to have a early test drive? I'd rather spend £1k on a Palmer Sport day.

willisit

2,142 posts

231 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Mike_Mac said:
Custom Pack changes those for 19" 'Lustre Nickel' Alloys - which annoyingly doesn't then show on the UK configurator. It does on the US one though and based on that they look good!
It sort of does if you click the little "i" icon under the Custom Pack selection (in Extras). It doesn't change YOUR car, but shows a picture of the wheels in silver (Same wheels, just silver I think).

It's slightly cheaper to add the three options, forego the chrome wheels and door/window surrounds and get a black on black look (on a blue or red, it looks meaner). Individual taste I guess.

Mike_Mac

664 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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willisit said:
Mike_Mac said:
Custom Pack changes those for 19" 'Lustre Nickel' Alloys - which annoyingly doesn't then show on the UK configurator. It does on the US one though and based on that they look good!
It sort of does if you click the little "i" icon under the Custom Pack selection (in Extras). It doesn't change YOUR car, but shows a picture of the wheels in silver (Same wheels, just silver I think).

It's slightly cheaper to add the three options, forego the chrome wheels and door/window surrounds and get a black on black look (on a blue or red, it looks meaner). Individual taste I guess.
I thought that too, but the US configurator, when those specific wheels are specced, shows different ones. Either look good though.

ETA - I've ordered Ingot Silver - so black wheels, for me, are a big no-no.

Edited by Mike_Mac on Tuesday 27th January 12:37

vit4

3,507 posts

170 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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I must admit that it is requiring rather a lot of self-restraint to avoid being really rather silly. I've always maintained that when buying cars it would either have to be very old and cheap, or brand new and keep for yonks - the issue being that, until this, there has been nothing that I've actually wanted to buy brand new! Maybe in a few years' time (in yellow!). Out of interest, I haven't seen anything to suggest it but have Ford stated a specific number that are coming to the UK, or simply as many as they can sell?

SFO

5,169 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
SFO said:
it's the non refundable nature of deposit that is the issue .. even Porsche doesn't do this!

problem for me is I like the idea of the Mustang convertible, but want the ability to change my mind if I have to wait too long, or if having seen it, I don't like it.
The dealers cannot order from ford yet so your deposit isn't with ford it's with the dealer surely ? Can you ask that question as I believe order book opens in may for the dealers to spec the first allocated cars
dealer told me that deposit was held by Ford UK.

dealer did not push me to place deposit.

also said that no one knows when cars will be available.

DSLiverpool

14,743 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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vit4 said:
Out of interest, I haven't seen anything to suggest it but have Ford stated a specific number that are coming to the UK, or simply as many as they can sell?
The Mustang guy at peoples said in the USA this is a Capri / Mondeo its a mass produced car that they can make in huge numbers so supply wont be a problem, the issue they have is that they expected probe / cougar type numbers and have been caught out by the interest.

croyde

22,898 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Why the black wheel hate biggrin I have always wanted a car with black wheels.

I didn't go for the custom pack as I thought why have reverse sensors when there is a reverse camera, I'm sure the standard stereo is fine and I'd rather listen to the engine, I have survived all my life without seats that blow hot or cold air and my problem, correct me if I'm wrong, with car fitted sat navs is the difficulty in keeping them up to date plus the few I have used seem really counter intuitive compared to say Tom Tom or Google on your phone.

Lastly the chrome bit sounds hurl and I didn't see a bit where you could click no chrome even if you have gone for the custom pack.

SFO

5,169 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
The Mustang guy at peoples said in the USA this is a Capri / Mondeo its a mass produced car that they can make in huge numbers so supply wont be a problem, the issue they have is that they expected probe / cougar type numbers and have been caught out by the interest.
as they have gone to the trouble of engineering RHD, they will want to sell as many as possible.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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croyde said:
Why the black wheel hate biggrin I have always wanted a car with black wheels.

I didn't go for the custom pack as I thought why have reverse sensors when there is a reverse camera, I'm sure the standard stereo is fine and I'd rather listen to the engine, I have survived all my life without seats that blow hot or cold air and my problem, correct me if I'm wrong, with car fitted sat navs is the difficulty in keeping them up to date plus the few I have used seem really counter intuitive compared to say Tom Tom or Google on your phone.

Lastly the chrome bit sounds hurl and I didn't see a bit where you could click no chrome even if you have gone for the custom pack.
It has a reverse cam? Might take the sensors off my order then. Not that I need any of them, being a man, just thought it would help resale value. wink

You only get the chrome WITH the custom pack, if that's what you meant.

As for the satnav, yeah, factory-fit satnav is a waste of time, however, it comes with/is the only way to get the upgraded audio so.....

Regardless of all that, I'm fairly confident once Ford realise the interest over here that 1) they will make more options available such as Recaro sports seats, and 2) allow you to change your spec based on that when they confirm your build date.


Edited by Centurion07 on Tuesday 27th January 13:04


Edited by Centurion07 on Tuesday 27th January 13:07

sumpoil

431 posts

164 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Mike_Mac said:
willisit said:
Mike_Mac said:
Custom Pack changes those for 19" 'Lustre Nickel' Alloys - which annoyingly doesn't then show on the UK configurator. It does on the US one though and based on that they look good!
It sort of does if you click the little "i" icon under the Custom Pack selection (in Extras). It doesn't change YOUR car, but shows a picture of the wheels in silver (Same wheels, just silver I think).

It's slightly cheaper to add the three options, forego the chrome wheels and door/window surrounds and get a black on black look (on a blue or red, it looks meaner). Individual taste I guess.
I thought that too, but the US configurator, when those specific wheels are specced, shows different ones. Either look good though.
The configurator leaves MUCH to be desired - another reason I'm put off by a £5,000 non-refundable deposit. I want to know EXACTLY what I'm getting. If a car can't be supplied to UK showrooms at present, surely it wouldn't be too much trouble for Ford to supply the UK dealers with proper colour samples (as we all know, colours on a computer can vary wildly compared to real life) and samples of the actual wheels that will be available?

With regard to wheels, if you go to the Ford UK website then click 'cars', 'mustang' then don't click the configurator, scroll down to the 5 tabs under the picture. Select 'design' and then underneath there are another 3 tabs, one of which is 'wheels'. There only seems to be a choice of 3 - or 2 if you order a V8.
However, on the same website - if you hover your mouse over the 'cars' option in the top left of the page, then in the pop-up click 'future vehicles' then click 'discover the new Mustang', you can scroll down and there are a different choice of wheels! There's that word consistency again!

DSLiverpool

14,743 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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SFO said:
DSLiverpool said:
The Mustang guy at peoples said in the USA this is a Capri / Mondeo its a mass produced car that they can make in huge numbers so supply wont be a problem, the issue they have is that they expected probe / cougar type numbers and have been caught out by the interest.
as they have gone to the trouble of engineering RHD, they will want to sell as many as possible.
The sceptical dealers expected it to Probe not Ford themselves, no dealer wants to be stuck with big engine 2 door stuff hence they are asking for deposits etc and I don't blame them.

Mike_Mac

664 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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sumpoil said:
With regard to wheels, if you go to the Ford UK website then click 'cars', 'mustang' then don't click the configurator, scroll down to the 5 tabs under the picture. Select 'design' and then underneath there are another 3 tabs, one of which is 'wheels'. There only seems to be a choice of 3 - or 2 if you order a V8.
Good Spot - I think that's likely to be the option you put above - it matches the known config of the UK spec levels, whereas the other one doesn't.

Alloys and twee chrome bits can all be removed/changed anyway. I'm sure once production is imminent there'll be a point when you can finalise your car - until then I'm not too bothered...
Centurion07 said:
Regardless of all that, I'm fairly confident once Ford realise the interest over here that 1) they will make more options available such as Recaro sports seats, and 2) allow you to change your spec based on that when they confirm your build date.
What he said /\

J4CKO

41,560 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Trif said:
V8 FOU said:
So that is why they are asking for deposits. Should be £5000 I think. anyone can russell up a monkey or a grand, just so they can say they have ordered a Mustang....
Who would waste £1k on pretending to order a Mustang? And the chance to have a early test drive? I'd rather spend £1k on a Palmer Sport day.
You are right, no Pistonheader would ever do that, i.e. pretend they had bought a car, that then turned out to have never happened, never, ever would that happen, not in 944 years.