RE: Ford announces Mustang pricing
Discussion
RenesisEvo said:
According to the current pricelist (all UK mpg):
2.3T Man Fastback: Urban 28 Extra Urban 41.5 Combined 35.3
2.3T Auto Fastback: Urban 19.5 Extra Urban 38.7 Combined 28.5
5.0 Man Fastback: Urban 14.1 Extra Urban 28.8 Combined 20.8
Auto really dents the figures. Convertible makes little difference to the auto figures but reduces the combined figure by around 1mpg. Personally a touch disappointed with the 5.0 Extra Urban figure; I had hoped a big lazy V8 and tall gears might mean 30mpg at 70. If it can't notably better the 25-26 that I'm getting now it will be harder to justify changing. Looks great though, and gets DAB (with the upgraded stereo), a major tick for me. No sunroof though?
The official figures are very very unlikely. Expect the mpg figures I quoted in the real world for the V8 and maybe an additional 2 mpg out of the 4 cylinder. The 4 cylinder will not get noticeably better mpg because it will need to use the turbo much more heavily to move the mass of the vehicle (and maintain speed on the highway) than the V8 will (in terms of the amount of throttle and revs needed to do the same work). 2.3T Man Fastback: Urban 28 Extra Urban 41.5 Combined 35.3
2.3T Auto Fastback: Urban 19.5 Extra Urban 38.7 Combined 28.5
5.0 Man Fastback: Urban 14.1 Extra Urban 28.8 Combined 20.8
Auto really dents the figures. Convertible makes little difference to the auto figures but reduces the combined figure by around 1mpg. Personally a touch disappointed with the 5.0 Extra Urban figure; I had hoped a big lazy V8 and tall gears might mean 30mpg at 70. If it can't notably better the 25-26 that I'm getting now it will be harder to justify changing. Looks great though, and gets DAB (with the upgraded stereo), a major tick for me. No sunroof though?
From an enjoyment to mpg perspective the V8 is the better buy but neither engines will see 30 mpg unless you are driving below 70 mph and on a flat road for the whole tank of petrol.
andybu said:
The UK prices are interesting. I am due to be in the US in late April for a holiday road trip with an American friend and I'd already thought to get a 2015 Mustang as the hire car. Will definitely go for trying one out now, given these prices. Living with one for 2 weeks is a good guide to ownership.
The fleets of rental car Mustangs are likely to be dominated by the base-model V6 engine (available only in the US) and not equipped with the performance package (ie: the suspension will be soft). If you rent a V8 Mustang, it may or may not be equipped with the performance package. It may be, literally, the base V8 with no options.
andybu said:
I'd also planned to get into a USA Ford dealer at some point and do some research on buying one over there & then shipping it here later. Looks as if that may not be worth the bother, since Ford UK are not being too greedy.
The UK car is down on power compared to the US car.Ed Straker said:
20mpg for the V8 would only be 3mpg worse than i'm getting out of a Merc 4.7 V8 with cylinder cut off and engine shut down, and driving like a District Nurse.
I can live with that.
The build quality of a wheelie bin is harder to live with.
You get what you pay for I suppose....
Merc make a reasonable dash for sure. Well, on their mid to top cars at any rate. Their entry efforts can be a bit dire. But their electrics are pretty tardy and a vast rip off to fix (£3500 for dodgily made satnav box for one) I fully suspect Ford will be an improvement here.I can live with that.
The build quality of a wheelie bin is harder to live with.
You get what you pay for I suppose....
Great pricing. I quite fancy a V8 but the only thing that worries me is the fuel consumption. Plenty of sites for the old 5.0 reckoned it would turn low to mid 20's mpg (imperial rather than US gallons, easily confused) which I can live with but if it's going to be sub 20 real world then it's off the menu for me sadly.
Not interested in the 4 pot in the slightest, defeats the point in my eyes.
Not interested in the 4 pot in the slightest, defeats the point in my eyes.
GG89 said:
Interesting figures. I'm no stranger to getting bummed at the pumps with the 2.5 ST but the thought of running the 5.0 V8 gives me the fear.
Nothing to fear. You never have to look far on these forums to find people averaging mid-20s mpg with 200-250bhp turbos, when you get similar with 400bhp+ and a great soundtrack, it's much better value for money. Or perhaps that's just how I justify it to myself. Half my mileage was business so claimed, but a new job means I'll be paying my own way, so 25mpg might start to be an issue (NB 25mpg is a guess, I can typically get 300 miles from about 3/4 of a 70 litre tank (which works out at 26mpg), I refuse to do anything more scientific on the basis that ignorance is bliss!).If I like how it drives and it's not too cheaply made, and they don't suddenly sell loads and murder the residuals, then I'll consider the running costs in more depth. As per The Wookie, the 4-pot has no attraction whatsoever, although I will still try one.
Edited by RenesisEvo on Wednesday 21st January 16:59
RenesisEvo said:
GG89 said:
Interesting figures. I'm no stranger to getting bummed at the pumps with the 2.5 ST but the thought of running the 5.0 V8 gives me the fear.
Nothing to fear. You never have to look far on these forums to find people averaging mid-20s mpg with 200-250bhp turbos, when you get similar with 400bhp+ and a great soundtrack, it's much better value for money. Or perhaps that's just how I justify it to myself. Half my mileage was business so claimed, but a new job means I'll be paying my own way, so 25mpg might start to be an issue (NB 25mpg is a guess, I can typically get 300 miles from about 3/4 of a 70 litre tank (which works out at 26mpg), I refuse to do anything more scientific on the basis that ignorance is bliss!).If I like how it drives and it's not too cheaply made, and they don't suddenly sell loads and murder the residuals, then I'll consider the running costs in more depth. As per The Wookie, the 4-pot has no attraction whatsoever, although I will still try one.
Edited by RenesisEvo on Wednesday 21st January 16:59
KarlMac said:
Awesome news. Puts the Focus RS in a very awkward position though.
Sub £20k you have the Fez ST
Sub £25k the Focus ST
Sub £30k you'll have the EB Mustang.
Just can't see who would talk themselves out of the mustang (for practicality reasons) and not just end up in the Focus ST? Is the RS purely going to be for blue oval nutters/fanboys?
Awesome to see Ford taking on the feedback from the Fiesta's success - make it cheap, make it fun.
I'm guessing tuning will be via Mountune rather than Shelby in the UK. The Shelby name just doesn't have the same pull over here. GT350 or MR350, most uk punters wont mind.
Isn't the Focus RS already in that position? I rarely see RS's on the road and when I do the drivers usually look a bit 'Ford anorak' (no offence). I don't think the Mustang will push other cars out to be honest as it's a new market place for Ford over here, so if anything it will just attract new buyers to the brand. The people that still want a fast Ford but need family duties/practicality will still buy the Focus/Fiesta ST's.Sub £20k you have the Fez ST
Sub £25k the Focus ST
Sub £30k you'll have the EB Mustang.
Just can't see who would talk themselves out of the mustang (for practicality reasons) and not just end up in the Focus ST? Is the RS purely going to be for blue oval nutters/fanboys?
Awesome to see Ford taking on the feedback from the Fiesta's success - make it cheap, make it fun.
I'm guessing tuning will be via Mountune rather than Shelby in the UK. The Shelby name just doesn't have the same pull over here. GT350 or MR350, most uk punters wont mind.
I like that Guard metallic colour.
I did the configurator and went to the options and unlike the german cars it only added about £800. Whatsup? As they say in the USA.
Really good value for money.
Imagine all those performance parts, an exhaust that makes it sound like Zeus wheezing for instance.
It reminds me of AMG in the 90s,
Love it.
I did the configurator and went to the options and unlike the german cars it only added about £800. Whatsup? As they say in the USA.
Really good value for money.
Imagine all those performance parts, an exhaust that makes it sound like Zeus wheezing for instance.
It reminds me of AMG in the 90s,
Love it.
k-ink said:
No one is going to be clamouring to get their hands on the older, uglier, worse handling, LHD examples. Once the market is full of traded in RHD examples in a few years i suspect the LHD examples will be swapping hands for relatively bugger all.
We shall see. I can almost hear the fans of the old car saying it was the last real Mustang and the new one is rubbish and europeanised already. 
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