RE: Focus RS breaks cover

[hufggfg]

Hitch78 said:

I say FWD. All of those drifts seem to show the front dragging the rear in typical recent ST Fiesta and Focus tight front/loose rear style, the rear is never pushing the front into a dab of oppo.

Unfortunately I'd agree with this

[JamesyBoy75]

TREMAiNE said:

An insider of mine at Ford has said its AWD and I trust his word!

An engineering insider I spoke to over xmas (friend of friend) also told me it was going to be AWD. I don't think he works in drivetrains though.

[iloveboost]

I'm still sticking with FWD+torque vectoring+LSD. 2.3 Ecoboost+350hp+245/40/18 tyres.

[Al U]

It will be AWD.

[pozi]

Of course it is FWD but as for all this talk of lift off over steer, does nobody put it past Mr Block to just yank on the handbrake for some drifty looking action?

[CO2000]

Front - drifting on the way in to the corner.

Maybe they'll make a 4wd Fiesta RS and do fun stuff like this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLQ08ZBjys0

Edited by CO2000 on Thursday 22 January 18:22

[Carlique]

The lock on that hairpin would suggest it's AWD to me. That's my bet anyway.

[D.no]

I could see absolutely nothing in that video to suggest AWD. All of the slides looked to be the result of lift-off (weight transfer)oversteer as made clear by the car's nose-down, tail-up attitude. Had the slides been a result of power overcoming the rear tyre's grip, the car's attitude would have looked as though far more of the mass was biased rearwards as a result of a slow-in, fast-out technique.

Of course, AWD (and RWD) cars can also be made to oversteer by lifting off, but there's an almost inexplicable difference in the car's attitude that normally still enables one to identify the driven wheels.

I'll eat my hat (and my coat) if the car in that video is not FWD (but I may postpone the dining until summer)

[ahenners]

I'd be surprised if it isn't FWD

[J4CKO]

micawrx said:

kambites said:

It's certainly going to look a bit odd if it's more expensive than the Mustang.

Don't forget the Mustang is not a quality vehicle, it is an American built muscle car. V8's start at $33000
There are rarely going to be the same customer base.

I would propose that you are a RS/Hot Hatch Fan or a Mustang fan... you may like the Mustang but wouldnt buy one.

Here in the US the Focus is dirt cheap (17000UKP for an ST) as it doesnt have the market.. I am sure the RS will race out of showrooms in Europe even if it was 5k more than the Mustang.. especially if AWD.

Edited by micawrx on Thursday 22 January 16:21

"Not a quality vehicle" ?

Because it is made in America, the Focus has some innate quality that Ford do not imbue the Mustang with ?

You do know Ford sell the Focus in the US and it is the same car save a few regional changes.

Focus with the 2.3 Turbo, the base model of the Mustang will be more expensive ?

Really, that was a load of nonsense wasn't it.

[micawrx]

J4CKO said:

"Not a quality vehicle" ?

Because it is made in America, the Focus has some innate quality that Ford do not imbue the Mustang with ?

You do know Ford sell the Focus in the US and it is the same car save a few regional changes.

Focus with the 2.3 Turbo, the base model of the Mustang will be more expensive ?

Really, that was a load of nonsense wasn't it.

In your opinion J4CKO, which part was nonsense exactly?


Do you think the development team of the Mustang and that of the Focus are the same?
The development effort in the Mustang has the same end goal as the focus?
How much have you had exposure to US built vehicles J4CKO?
Do you have enough experience or competence to comment?
Do you think the Focus RS is going to be sub 25k?

... or are you just a troll??

[CraigZR]

I think to compete with the Golf R and A45 AMG it has to be awd. Im hoping the build an awd Fiesta RS, like a road going version of the R5 rally car.

[Hackney]

2016 shopping list now includes:

Civic Type R
AMG45
Golf R 400
Focus RS

Can't wait.

[Ali_T]

micawrx said:

Don't forget the Mustang is not a quality vehicle,

Wouldn't say a Focus RS is much better! It's a cheap shopping trolley with heavy tuning.

[Ali_T]

CraigZR said:

I think to compete with the Golf R and A45 AMG it has to be awd. Im hoping the build an awd Fiesta RS, like a road going version of the R5 rally car.

Unless it's £40k, it's not an A45 rival.

[Caddyshack]

Looked FWD to me

[luke g28]

FWD.

I can c bi da pic-cells.

[Emeye]

Looking very front driven to me.

[macky17]

4WD - Ford is on a roll.

[redroadster]

Unless you need a hatchback I,d have the new mustang over this as the price is likely to be very close, I,ve had all the focus rs and both were compromised in how they drove.