McLaren F1 for sale....one not-so-careful previous owner
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A lovely piece. The car is just sensational and the owner comes across very well indeed. Unbelievable how much these things are worth now. Though, it is so much more appealing than any of the 'computer game' hypercars available today. Loved the references to holiday in Cornwall and the comment from the chap here about the Trackday where the interior was festooned in newspapers and food wrappers! The car has obviously been enjoyed properly. I doubt the next owner will do so in a similar fashion.
RobM77 said:
J4CKO said:
Strawman said:
Lost soul said:
J4CKO said:
KTF said:
I am still amazed at how much money Atkinson has made from Blackadder and Mr Bean...
I suspect as well there may be some shrewd investment going on, to be fair the Mr Bean thing was huge, Blackadder is a national treasure but I cant imagine it paid as well as Mr Bean, wonder if he gets a few quid every time its shown on UK Gold ? i.e. every day ?I used to kart with RA's son at Silverstone, although he was a maybe four years below me, so I've had the pleasure of looking around his F1 in person. The colour really is glorious, and his enthusiasm for it really does shine through when he's talking about it.
I'd buy it in a heartbeat were I not poor.
Edit: As a heads up to anyone who may meet him in the future, he's not a man who responds well to being treated in the way that most famous people are accustomed to being treated. Just talk to him as you would anybody and he's quite personable.
I'd buy it in a heartbeat were I not poor.
Edit: As a heads up to anyone who may meet him in the future, he's not a man who responds well to being treated in the way that most famous people are accustomed to being treated. Just talk to him as you would anybody and he's quite personable.
Edited by Jabosoc on Friday 23 January 13:33
The only thing that annoys me is when people go on about the F1 and say things like "Modern Supercars are so big and heavy" etc in comparison. Well, sorry, but have a go at building an F1 today. Done that, good, now try and sell it. Oh, you can't because it fails pretty much every test in the EU type approval process. Ok, re-engineer it to pass those test. Done that. Ah, not much like an F1 any longer now is it.............
Max_Torque said:
The only thing that annoys me is when people go on about the F1 and say things like "Modern Supercars are so big and heavy" etc in comparison. Well, sorry, but have a go at building an F1 today. Done that, good, now try and sell it. Oh, you can't because it fails pretty much every test in the EU type approval process. Ok, re-engineer it to pass those test. Done that. Ah, not much like an F1 any longer now is it.............
Fair comment Steven_RW said:
Of all the crash repair jobs in the world, this is one that I couldn't careless if it was crashed. The fact McLaren have repaired it to the highest standards means it is better than ever as far as I am concerned.
I'd like someone to put a finger on the actual negative point of it having being crashed previously.
Is it pure emotion rather than logic?
Formula 1 cars are crashed and repaired to a good enough standard to win championships of the toughest competition in the world.
It just doesn't stack that this wouldn't be at least as good as new.
Cheers
Steven RW
I think you'd need a materials expert to give you answer to that question.I'd like someone to put a finger on the actual negative point of it having being crashed previously.
Is it pure emotion rather than logic?
Formula 1 cars are crashed and repaired to a good enough standard to win championships of the toughest competition in the world.
It just doesn't stack that this wouldn't be at least as good as new.
Cheers
Steven RW
Perhaps mclaren don't have the technology to see the damage caused by the accident. Perhaps no-one has. Doesn't mean it isn't there.
As for the £900,000 repair bill, its meaningless unless you actually have a breakdown. Mclaren could charge what they like for repairing the car as no one else would repair it. If someone else did repair it the car would devalue like falling off a cliff.
With a monopoly like that you don't think the price reflects the actual work that went into the car do you?
I wouldn't be worried about driving a car returned from Mclaren in 'as new' condition, but I think its a big jump from that to say 'I couldn't care less if it was crashed'
Jabosoc said:
Edit: As a heads up to anyone who may meet him in the future, he's not a man who responds well to being treated in the way that most famous people are accustomed to being treated. Just talk to him as you would anybody and he's quite personable.
I've often raced with him and yes, he's a very nice guy and very approachable.julian64 said:
I think you'd need a materials expert to give you answer to that question.
Perhaps mclaren don't have the technology to see the damage caused by the accident. Perhaps no-one has. Doesn't mean it isn't there.
As for the £900,000 repair bill, its meaningless unless you actually have a breakdown. Mclaren could charge what they like for repairing the car as no one else would repair it. If someone else did repair it the car would devalue like falling off a cliff.
With a monopoly like that you don't think the price reflects the actual work that went into the car do you?
I wouldn't be worried about driving a car returned from Mclaren in 'as new' condition, but I think its a big jump from that to say 'I couldn't care less if it was crashed'
Interesting and I do appreciate what you are saying. At the end of the day, I'm not in a position to buy it anyway.Perhaps mclaren don't have the technology to see the damage caused by the accident. Perhaps no-one has. Doesn't mean it isn't there.
As for the £900,000 repair bill, its meaningless unless you actually have a breakdown. Mclaren could charge what they like for repairing the car as no one else would repair it. If someone else did repair it the car would devalue like falling off a cliff.
With a monopoly like that you don't think the price reflects the actual work that went into the car do you?
I wouldn't be worried about driving a car returned from Mclaren in 'as new' condition, but I think its a big jump from that to say 'I couldn't care less if it was crashed'
What I do think is interesting is that if McLaren don't have the technology to tell if it is "as good as new", I guess they don't have the technology to say if "new is good" when building it in the first place then? If I understand correctly.
Of all the companies in the world that work with these materials I would have thought McLaren, who have been producing carbon formula one cars for a rather long time probably have every tool needed and every processes needed to check.
How do you think they decide if a formula 1 car repair is good enough to risk a formula one drivers life or to continue their attempt at a championship?
I just can't buy that McLaren are not able to repair a F1 to as good as new standard.
As for the price of the repair, that wasn't a point I was suggesting was important.
I am happy with the chap "Clark" who worked at McLaren saying the car is as good as new. Good enough for me, but I'm happy to hear what I'm missing from his expert opinion.
Steven RW
Steven_RW said:
The fact McLaren have repaired it to the highest standards means it is better than ever as far as I am concerned.
Try justifying why you think it is better than the day it left the factory new and with no possibility of any inbuilt stress in any component that it may have now.RobM77 said:
Dapster said:
I wonder if one can ask McLaren to rebuild this to the exact spec and colour of the 5 existing LM road cars, or whether they would refuse in order to maintain the integrity and exclusivity of the LM? If I had limitless pots of cash, that's what I'd be doing.
Surely the LM's just another racing car though? For purely track use, an old F1 car for the same money will be much faster. The unique thing about the Mclaren F1 road car was that it's quiet at a cruise, has luggage space, air con, CD player, comfortable seats, seats three etc. At least that's how I see it?TA14 said:
Steven_RW said:
The fact McLaren have repaired it to the highest standards means it is better than ever as far as I am concerned.
Try justifying why you think it is better than the day it left the factory new and with no possibility of any inbuilt stress in any component that it may have now.RobM77 said:
TA14 said:
Steven_RW said:
The fact McLaren have repaired it to the highest standards means it is better than ever as far as I am concerned.
Try justifying why you think it is better than the day it left the factory new and with no possibility of any inbuilt stress in any component that it may have now.TA14 said:
RobM77 said:
TA14 said:
Steven_RW said:
The fact McLaren have repaired it to the highest standards means it is better than ever as far as I am concerned.
Try justifying why you think it is better than the day it left the factory new and with no possibility of any inbuilt stress in any component that it may have now.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff