RE: Spied: BMW M2
Discussion
Zad said:
If this thread is a bit quiet, it is because we are all hanging out in the (£34K V8 400bhp proper power steering) Mustang thread over there -->
However, heavyweight vs super middleweight (presumably) and possibly finesse, but against NA, 8 banger sound and price.Both may or may not be blinding
LukeR94 said:
kambites said:
LukeR94 said:
Also I dont see what market this fits into, surely they are just stealing sales from the M235i?
The M4 and 435i seem to sit happily enough in the same range. I don't see why this should be any different. When BMW released the E36 M3 and the E36 328i they had to detune the 328(In the form of a lesser intake manifold) as they feared it would have detremented sales of the M3 if they were too closely matched.
I fear the M235i will detriment sales of this, or the other way round.
The M2 if they get it right should feel really special, and as all the good handling M cars do, sacrifice a tiny bit of everyday usabilility for a heap more involvement both when trundling around and when really pushing it.
The M2 is an opportunity to tempt current 1M and e46/e92 M3 drivers out of their current cars if they get it right.
Find myself wanting one of these bad, but also thinking that day to day I would like 4 doors like my M135i.
A hatchback version would be great....
Stupid, but I hate having massive doors that swing out wide... and not being able to lob stuff straight into the back.
Maybe I just need to get an M3 instead!
A hatchback version would be great....
Stupid, but I hate having massive doors that swing out wide... and not being able to lob stuff straight into the back.
Maybe I just need to get an M3 instead!
Why can't M division simply give us a modern E30 M3? Light weight, more power than grip and aggressive styling. (a high revving 4 pot would be nice too, although I know a lot of folk prefer more cylinders) Bigger just doesn't mean better, when it comes to car size and modern cars seem huge nowadays. I was in traffic yesterday, in my old 1600-2 and it was dwarfed by the new Mini alongside.
M2 has been around for years, when you drop the s14 engine in here. I'd much rather have this over the new version.
M2 has been around for years, when you drop the s14 engine in here. I'd much rather have this over the new version.
kambites said:
e21Mark said:
Why can't M division simply give us a modern E30 M3?
I think the answer is simple - not enough people would buy such a car to make it profitable. Obviously this is just my opinion.
Am I the only one who doesn't get the mass bmw m love? Looks are pretty bland both inside and out they are very common cars in terms of numbers on the roads so don't feel that special to own.
I appreciate they are well engineered from a performance perspective but I just don't get the level of hype around them.
Hey ho... I'll get my coat.
Stu
I appreciate they are well engineered from a performance perspective but I just don't get the level of hype around them.
Hey ho... I'll get my coat.
Stu
e21Mark said:
Sales & residual values of 1M suggest otherwise to me.
But the 1M wasn't like that - it certainly wasn't particularly light. They don't have a small platform to base it on; the 2-series is E46 size and weight, so they'd have to build something from the ground up.I think the only way we're likely to get a really driver focussed BMW now is if they ever decide to produce a Z2 without a folding metal roof.
stuno1 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't get the mass bmw m love? Looks are pretty bland both inside and out they are very common cars in terms of numbers on the roads so don't feel that special to own.
I appreciate they are well engineered from a performance perspective but I just don't get the level of hype around them.
Hey ho... I'll get my coat.
Stu
I think that's why so many rate the 1M though. Limited numbers, bit of an "engineer's special", and stands out from the crowd in terms of its looksI appreciate they are well engineered from a performance perspective but I just don't get the level of hype around them.
Hey ho... I'll get my coat.
Stu
e21Mark said:
No, but it was definitely more like the E30 M3 than recent (much larger/heavier) M3's.
Yes, but the car in question is this M2 and whilst I agree it's highly unlikely to be as driver orientated as the 1M let alone the E30 M3, we don't actually know that yet. I'd love to see a CSL type version of this thing but even that would probably still be 1400kg and have EPAS and electronic everything. I'd even more like to see BMW actually have a go at building a proper sports car again but I don't think I can see that happening either. Sadly, the market has come to realise that you can't make much money aiming cars at driving enthusiasts.
Edited by kambites on Saturday 24th January 10:03
Leins said:
I think that's why so many rate the 1M though. Limited numbers, bit of an "engineer's special", and stands out from the crowd in terms of its looks
Yeah I understand with regard to that model. It's the mass market models I don't get. As I say, I appreciate they are well engineered cars but people go mad for them!stuno1 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't get the mass bmw m love? Looks are pretty bland both inside and out they are very common cars in terms of numbers on the roads so don't feel that special to own.
I appreciate they are well engineered from a performance perspective but I just don't get the level of hype around them.
Hey ho... I'll get my coat.
Stu
Have you driven one for any length of time????I appreciate they are well engineered from a performance perspective but I just don't get the level of hype around them.
Hey ho... I'll get my coat.
Stu
They grow on you and they really do drive extremely well. I've got an E46 M3 and have had a few quick cars and driven many others.....the M just feels 'right'. Mine (Mary) is never getting sold.
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