RE: Spied: BMW M2
Discussion
kambites said:
e21Mark said:
No, but it was definitely more like the E30 M3 than recent (much larger/heavier) M3's.
Yes, but the car in question is this M2 and whilst I agree it's highly unlikely to be as driver orientated as the 1M let alone the E30 M3, we don't actually know that yet. I'd love to see a CSL type version of this thing but even that would probably still be 1400kg and have EPAS and electronic everything. I'd even more like to see BMW actually have a go at building a proper sports car again but I don't think I can see that happening either. Sadly, the market has come to realise that you can't make much money aiming cars at driving enthusiasts.
Edited by kambites on Saturday 24th January 10:03
kambites said:
e21Mark said:
No, but it was definitely more like the E30 M3 than recent (much larger/heavier) M3's.
Yes, but the car in question is this M2 and whilst I agree it's highly unlikely to be as driver orientated as the 1M let alone the E30 M3, we don't actually know that yet. I'd love to see a CSL type version of this thing but even that would probably still be 1400kg and have EPAS and electronic everything. Generally M cars are getting on for the heaviest in the range ( within a model ) - big wheels, brakes, tyres, diff etc
kambites said:
e21Mark said:
No, but it was definitely more like the E30 M3 than recent (much larger/heavier) M3's.
Yes, but the car in question is this M2 and whilst I agree it's highly unlikely to be as driver orientated as the 1M let alone the E30 M3, we don't actually know that yet. I'd love to see a CSL type version of this thing but even that would probably still be 1400kg and have EPAS and electronic everything. Generally M cars are getting on for the heaviest in the range ( within a model ) - big wheels, brakes, tyres, diff etc
Presuming Ed said:
I do like the sound of this. Keep the weight below 1400kg. A proper LSD, around 350hp, old school steering and flared arches and I might have to rethink the Cayman idea. Price will be the key to its success, it needs to be not much more then 40k.
I'll be amazed if it's below the weight of an E46 CSL ....unless there's no aircon, entertainment ( radio etc ) back seats, carbon fibre panels, racing buckets etce21Mark said:
Sales & residual values of 1M suggest otherwise to me.
All residuals are a balance of demand and supply. With the 1M the supply is significantly limited (400 odd cars) so a relatively smaller demand still keeps the price high. Add in to that how well regarded it is as an enthusiasts car (which is a small group of people, but who are more willing to pay a relatively high price for what they want) and you end up with solid residuals (similar situation in Porsche GT cars).The problem is this strategy is a pretty poor one for a new mainstream model. Sure, you could limit supply significantly to keep your order books full, but that's not a great way to make a lot of money. It of course works to create a halo car, but that's not the way BMW have ever seemed to use the M division.
There were around 800 M4s registered in Q2 and Q3 alone last year, so I would think they are planning to sell a LOT more M2s than they did 1M Coupes.
gumsie said:
Is it just me? The 4 exhausts is beginning to annoy me now, mind you even run of the mill cars are getting two pipes now.
On this then...yes On this then...no
I must admit I still like the look of 4 exhausts on cars though and agree with you that even run of the mill stuff get two pipes now.
Can't Wait for this car.
From the article:
The long awaited and enthusiast oriented BMW M2 has been spotted testing again, this time near the Leipzig plant in Germany.
Photos and video - BMW M2 test car spied close up
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From the article:
The long awaited and enthusiast oriented BMW M2 has been spotted testing again, this time near the Leipzig plant in Germany.
Photos and video - BMW M2 test car spied close up
.
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