RE: New McLaren 650S for Geneva
Friday 23rd January 2015
If there's one thing the McLaren 650S doesn't really need, it's more performance. This is a car that will hit 125mph from rest in 8.6 seconds after all. But McLaren feels the need to make a really fast car more rapid still and we are certainly not ones to grumble. Speed matters and all that.
Are they longtail F1s?Clearly pitched as a riposte to the 458 Speciale, this 650S (650SS? 650SR? 650SRI?) will be more powerful and more track focused than standard. Remember a reworked version of the 650S's 3.8-litre V8 produces 737hp in the P1 so it's clearly capable of producing more power. Whatever the exact figure, it will be comfortably beyond the Ferrari's 605hp. "More track focused" implies a reduced weight too; for reference the Ferrari shed 90kg over the standard 458. There's that rather exciting V12 Vantage GT3 on the way as well. Now there would be a triple test to savour...
New McLaren 650S for Geneva
'More powerful and more track focused' 650S to be shown alongside the P1 GTR
Are they longtail F1s?
As appears the McLaren way at present, we will all have to wait (and wait) for further information on this new car. If you can decipher the meaning behind this car's livery then it would be much appreciated. From here it looks like a wallpaper of longtail F1s...
A busy couple of months for McLaren then. This 650S will share the Geneva limelight with the P1 GTR, shortly before the Sports Series is shown at New York. All without weird camouflage too. More as we have it!
Discussion
Jordan210 said:
If I had the money to buy a McLaren I would be worried that it would be outdated the week after!
ThisPlus with the 650S becoming faster still I would guess this £400k car that sits inbetween the P1 and this will basically be as quick as a P1?
It seems like you buy a product and either a better one comes out a week later or something cheaper that makes it redundant...
Okay PH'ers, help me...
On the A34 yesterday (south of Newbury) I saw what I'm sure was a 650, but with circular exhausts exiting from the rear window (or where one would be in most cases). It also had a small wiring loom (3 or 4 wires I'd guess) running from the side window into the area around the exhausts. It was a LHD car, driven by a 'normal' looking young lady (she didn't look like an engineer out on a proving run is what I mean, no sexism please, keep that for The Sun)... And anyway it's a bit of a way from HQ... So what did I see please?
Thanks
On the A34 yesterday (south of Newbury) I saw what I'm sure was a 650, but with circular exhausts exiting from the rear window (or where one would be in most cases). It also had a small wiring loom (3 or 4 wires I'd guess) running from the side window into the area around the exhausts. It was a LHD car, driven by a 'normal' looking young lady (she didn't look like an engineer out on a proving run is what I mean, no sexism please, keep that for The Sun)... And anyway it's a bit of a way from HQ... So what did I see please?
Thanks
DMC2 said:
Anybody with a 650s is about to take a big hit in depreciation unless the new car is very track focused. 911 GT3s don't affect the residuals of cooking 911s as they are so different, but McLaren keep releasing cars which are just better versions of their current car.
Have to agree with you. As an aside, I really hope they change the rear design of the 650S to be more aligned with the design of the front end. At the moment its a P1-12C mash-up and looks crap.
chelme said:
Have to agree with you.
As an aside, I really hope they change the rear design of the 650S to be more aligned with the design of the front end. At the moment its a P1-12C mash-up and looks crap.
Lets be honest, It could have the arse from an F-type and you would still find something McLaren to moan about.As an aside, I really hope they change the rear design of the 650S to be more aligned with the design of the front end. At the moment its a P1-12C mash-up and looks crap.
And then unequivocally defend Ferrari.
And then suggest anyone who criticised Ferrari has an agenda.
As is your right, just lets not suggest it's a balanced point of view.
The Vambo said:
chelme said:
Have to agree with you.
As an aside, I really hope they change the rear design of the 650S to be more aligned with the design of the front end. At the moment its a P1-12C mash-up and looks crap.
Lets be honest, It could have the arse from an F-type and you would still find something McLaren to moan about.As an aside, I really hope they change the rear design of the 650S to be more aligned with the design of the front end. At the moment its a P1-12C mash-up and looks crap.
And then unequivocally defend Ferrari.
And then suggest anyone who criticised Ferrari has an agenda.
As is your right, just lets not suggest it's a balanced point of view.
We all have our preferences and wishes, and this is a forum to share them. I want McLaren to do well, I just don't like their current car. I'm sorry if that has hurt your feelings.
Edited by chelme on Friday 23 January 14:47
Matt Bird said:
If you can decipher the meaning behind this car's livery then it would be much appreciated. From here it looks like a wallpaper of longtail F1s...
Seems like an odd longtail to choose since #41 was a DNF at Le Mans in 1998. Unless I'm missing something?...so I was missing that they used #41 in 1997 too and finished 2nd overall and won GT1.
Edited by cavebloke on Friday 23 January 14:47
For f
ks sake, please, please, stop with the bullst that is 'it's a reworked P1 engine'. It's not, nothing like. Whilst it has the same bore and stroke, the block casting and pretty much everything else is different.
To the point where the P1 engine is something like half the height of the 12C/650S one.
Sway said:
For f
ks sake, please, please, stop with the bullst that is 'it's a reworked P1 engine'. It's not, nothing like. Whilst it has the same bore and stroke, the block casting and pretty much everything else is different.
To the point where the P1 engine is something like half the height of the 12C/650S one.
The Vambo said:
Sway said:
For f
ks sake, please, please, stop with the bullst that is 'it's a reworked P1 engine'. It's not, nothing like. Whilst it has the same bore and stroke, the block casting and pretty much everything else is different.
To the point where the P1 engine is something like half the height of the 12C/650S one.
I agree they are almost being a bit like Pagani were with the Zonda by bringing out other silight itterations quite quickly after releasing the latest model. That was on a smaller scale I suppose. In some ways its good as then the customers can get the latest tech but you wonder if at times they hold back so they can release a new improved model 6 months later. I would always feel like hanging on for the next model.
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