Motorway 80mph limit back on the agenda !!!!!

Motorway 80mph limit back on the agenda !!!!!

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Vipers

32,900 posts

229 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Kawasicki said:
Guybrush said:
3) Death rates cannot be compared by country. The weather in countries like Spain, Italy and even Britain isn't as challenging as in Germany, were a severe winter makes accidents more likely.

So far it looks like driving in Germany is comparably safe as in other countries, despite the lack of a speed limit and despite adverse weather conditions.
Yes, I was driving on the Autobahn earlier this week in a snowstorm. It was so bad the traffic slowed to 70mph.
laugh Not bad in a snowstorm.




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vonhosen

40,247 posts

218 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Guybrush said:
From an article I saw recently in a daily newspaper (can't remember which one) regarding driving at speeds at which individual drivers are comfortable, not staring at a speedometer to comply with a penpusher-imposed limit:

Of course, it's too simplistic to believe that the higher the speed the worse the crash...

1) Studies by the German Transportation ministry have shown that when crossing a certain threshhold the brain function changes.
While people intensively use their cortex at lower speeds, more function goes to the limbic system at higher speeds. Which means that reaction/response times are shortened and driving becomes less tiring. They are therefore safer.

2) Driving on unrestricted Autobahns also means people develop a better understanding of their vehicle and its capabilities and limitations.

3) Death rates cannot be compared by country. The weather in countries like Spain, Italy and even Britain isn't as challenging as in Germany, were a severe winter makes accidents more likely.

So far it looks like driving in Germany is comparably safe as in other countries, despite the lack of a speed limit and despite adverse weather conditions.
A higher rate of death isn't inevitable in adverse weather, if you drive to the conditions that is.
We had unrestricted motorways & limits were introduced because people didn't drive to the conditions.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Guybrush said:
From an article I saw recently in a daily newspaper (can't remember which one) regarding driving at speeds at which individual drivers are comfortable, not staring at a speedometer to comply with a penpusher-imposed limit:

Of course, it's too simplistic to believe that the higher the speed the worse the crash...

1) Studies by the German Transportation ministry have shown that when crossing a certain threshhold the brain function changes.
While people intensively use their cortex at lower speeds, more function goes to the limbic system at higher speeds. Which means that reaction/response times are shortened and driving becomes less tiring. They are therefore safer.

2) Driving on unrestricted Autobahns also means people develop a better understanding of their vehicle and its capabilities and limitations.

3) Death rates cannot be compared by country. The weather in countries like Spain, Italy and even Britain isn't as challenging as in Germany, were a severe winter makes accidents more likely.

So far it looks like driving in Germany is comparably safe as in other countries, despite the lack of a speed limit and despite adverse weather conditions.
That's an interesting statement and you need to back it up with data.

What studies?

If driving faster gives you a better understanding of the vehicle and it's capabilites then surely driving regularly in adverse weather conditions makes you better at that as well.

Germany also has a different approach to winter tyres.

Without any evidence this sounds like stuff made up to support an argument.


Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Also, countries that get more snow than Germany, such as Norway and Sweden both have safer roads i.e. less people killed per head of population.

http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.A997