Ford Mondeo TDCi 6 speed Dual Mass Flywheel

[jhfozzy]

R2T2 said:

jhfozzy said:

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Edited by jhfozzy on Tuesday 27th January 14:40

being a diesel, and a 3.2, and turbocharged it'll need to be stronger than mine.

Mine only has 155lb-ft, whereas the Mitsu probably has twice that, if not more.

I'm not sure what your argument is, I was just replying to your comment of:

R2T2 said:

It shouldn't cost £1000 at all.

And showing you that different vehicles have wildly different prices.

A quick look online shows that the clutch and flywheel for the mondeo could be as much as £277 and £282 respectively. That's without the CSC at approx £80, flywheel bolts at £15, it could be as much as £650 just for the parts.

[R2T2]

jhfozzy said:

And showing you that different vehicles have wildly different prices.

A quick look online shows that the clutch and flywheel for the mondeo could be as much as £277 and £282 respectively. That's without the CSC at approx £80, flywheel bolts at £15, it could be as much as £650 just for the parts.

I was saying that in my experience, on a common car I wouldn't expect £1000. But I was happy to be proved wrong. Judging by how mine added up, and I was charged £580, I would expect £800-850. Pricey I admit and not far from the £1000. I didn't expect the flywheels to be that much considering they're almost a consumable.

[jhfozzy]

R2T2 said:

I didn't expect the flywheels to be that much considering they're almost a consumable.

I agree and that's part of the reason I would never, ever buy a diesel (or indeed a car with a DMF, DPF, etc).

ETA: Shocking especially considering the clutch for my 300/300 Evo cost £200 and has lasted seven years so far.

Edited by jhfozzy on Tuesday 27th January 16:59

[R2T2]

jhfozzy said:

I agree and that's part of the reason I would never, ever buy a diesel (or indeed a car with a DMF, DPF, etc).

Having had to replace one, I whole-heartedly agree with you.

[Fastdruid]

jhfozzy said:

R2T2 said:

I didn't expect the flywheels to be that much considering they're almost a consumable.

I agree and that's part of the reason I would never, ever buy a diesel (or indeed a car with a DMF, DPF, etc).

Petrols have DMF's too. Difference is that when they say that it's expected to last the life of the car they mean it. I don't worry that the DMF will go on my 2.5T (the clutch might go but then my last Mondeo was on 180k and the original clutch when I sold it so I probably shouldn't worry there either).

[anonymous-user]

you can buy single mass flywheel and clutch as an option, save a lot of money just a loss in refinement.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Tuesday 27th January 17:18

[98elise]

R2T2 said:

jhfozzy said:

And showing you that different vehicles have wildly different prices.

A quick look online shows that the clutch and flywheel for the mondeo could be as much as £277 and £282 respectively. That's without the CSC at approx £80, flywheel bolts at £15, it could be as much as £650 just for the parts.

I was saying that in my experience, on a common car I wouldn't expect £1000. But I was happy to be proved wrong. Judging by how mine added up, and I was charged £580, I would expect £800-850. Pricey I admit and not far from the £1000. I didn't expect the flywheels to be that much considering they're almost a consumable.

I was quoted 1k by Ford for a clutch and DFM change on a 2002 2ltr Petrol Mondeo. More than the car was worth!

[Davidandall]

So it is a dilemma. I like the car and have had it for almost 7 years. It was cheap as a 3 year old one owner car so really it owes me nothing.

If it will cost about £1,000 for the work then can I buy a car as good for the same money? I would not know its history but it could be lower mileage.

If I do spend £1,000 on it I then have to hope that nothing else will go wrong with a car that has done 160,000 miles. What is the life of the turbo and what else is likely to go on a car of this mileage?

[glasgowrob]

Mondeo dmfs are made of stern stuff my taxi mk4.5 is on 215k and still on its original clutch and flywheel

[camelot1971]

Had the original DMF and clutch changed on my Mondeo 2.2 TDCi at 160,000 miles about 15 months ago. Cost £1050 at my Ford dealer; it was a gearbox out job so the gearbox oil was replaced at the same time too.

[anonymous-user]

jhfozzy said:

R2T2 said:

I didn't expect the flywheels to be that much considering they're almost a consumable.

I agree and that's part of the reason I would never, ever buy a diesel (or indeed a car with a DMF, DPF, etc).

ETA: Shocking especially considering the clutch for my 300/300 Evo cost £200 and has lasted seven years so far.

Edited by jhfozzy on Tuesday 27th January 16:59

This one has lasted 150K+, there is a bloke above who has done 200K+ with his. Everyone I know personally who has had to change one did it at 100K+ as a minimum. To call that a consumable seems a bit strong, it's really just a relatively small added expense when you'd probably be due a clutch change anyway. The internet is full of moaning minnies but in actual fact DMFs are a good solution and if they aren't abused they can last for the sensible design life of the car.

[GreenArrow]

98elise said:

R2T2 said:

jhfozzy said:

And showing you that different vehicles have wildly different prices.

A quick look online shows that the clutch and flywheel for the mondeo could be as much as £277 and £282 respectively. That's without the CSC at approx £80, flywheel bolts at £15, it could be as much as £650 just for the parts.

I was saying that in my experience, on a common car I wouldn't expect £1000. But I was happy to be proved wrong. Judging by how mine added up, and I was charged £580, I would expect £800-850. Pricey I admit and not far from the £1000. I didn't expect the flywheels to be that much considering they're almost a consumable.

I was quoted 1k by Ford for a clutch and DFM change on a 2002 2ltr Petrol Mondeo. More than the car was worth!

Major design flaw on Mk3 Mondeo, the front subframe has to come off to remove clutch and flywheel, hence why the bill is usually over a grand. For some reason the Mazda 6, which was based on the Mondeo when Ford owned Mazda and has the same petrol engine doesn't have that problem. Mondeo TDCI is infamous for the old DMF/clutch mega bill. The turbos usually go too, my neighbours immaculately cared for one owner TDCI blew its turbo on 158,000 miles. Still I suppose that aint a bad life. However, its another reason why as a buyer of cheap 8-10 year old cars, I avoid diesels like the plague!

[S0 What]

New DMF and clutch kit (LUK) is around the £380 mark, 5 to 6 hours labour on top pluss new gear oil, total should be arond the £600 mark from a back street garage (thats what i charge), £800 at an indi, dealers will be around the G mark for a mondeo.

[Davidandall]

S0 What said:

New DMF and clutch kit (LUK) is around the £380 mark, 5 to 6 hours labour on top pluss new gear oil, total should be arond the £600 mark from a back street garage (thats what i charge), £800 at an indi, dealers will be around the G mark for a mondeo.

Thank you, very useful to have some idea of cost

[Andyjc86]

Last one I did was about £800, it's a heavy old job. I think parts were around £600 as I had to replace a knackered driveshaft as well.

[wiliferus]

Davidandall said:

S0 What said:

New DMF and clutch kit (LUK) is around the £380 mark, 5 to 6 hours labour on top pluss new gear oil, total should be arond the £600 mark from a back street garage (thats what i charge), £800 at an indi, dealers will be around the G mark for a mondeo.

Thank you, very useful to have some idea of cost

I'm going back about 3 years, but I had mine done on my Mk3 Mondeo, it cost me about £700 at Mr Clutch. I'm pretty sure Mr Clutch use cheap parts, but as with you, it was a low value car (no offence) so I wanted to throw minimal cash at it to keep it on the road. Unfortunately I can't comment on the longevity of the parts as it go written off a short time later

[baldy1926]

I had a mondeo which had clutch problems. It was really hard to get anyone to work on it as it was engine out and remove the subframe. Everyone quoted silly prices as they did not want the work. The cost of a clutch was more than the car was worth

[S0 What]

baldy1926 said:

I had a mondeo which had clutch problems. It was really hard to get anyone to work on it as it was engine out and remove the subframe. Everyone quoted silly prices as they did not want the work. The cost of a clutch was more than the car was worth

But it's not an engine out job and dropping the subframe takes 10 mins at the most, you don't have to take it off just drop it enough to get the box out, no special tools needed to realign it just tippex and half a brain it is a bit of a PITA comapaired to, say, a civic petrol but then a mechanic will make it sound harder or just B/S you to fob you off cos he simply hates doing them

[mygoldfishbowl]

Also get them to change the crankshaft oil seal.

[22Rgt]

dme123 said:

R2T2 said:

Matthen said:

Or he used cheap motor-factor parts. Should be about £350 - £400 for good quality parts for the Mondeo - same as the focus, then if like the focus you've got to drop the gearbox (wouldn't surprise me) in a main dealer or premium independent, £1k isnt far off the mark.

Used LUK parts.

It appears parts are cheaper than for a Mondeo and perhaps it doesn't take as long. Or your guy did it at a loss I suppose.

We had dozens of these a few years back as taxis and over time genuine LUK parts dropped dramatically in price. Genuine parts at trade are around £300 for a three piece clutch kit and the flywheel, around £200 to fit and £550 isnt far off the mark. No need to pay a grand and in any case paying that sort of money is going to be more than the cars worth. Bear in mind also these engines suffer from injector and pump problems. Genuine Delphi injectors new are around £180 each and have to be coded in at extra cost, a pump is in the region of £500 plus fitting. Combine both and has the makings of writing the car off. We scrapped quite a few rather than spend that kind of money. One tip, always use genuine Delphi or Mann fuel filters, these are down to around 3 microns, cheap filters can be up to around 20 microns causing said injection issues.