The war on NOx and diesel...
Discussion
Pan Pan Pan said:
S0 What said:
I drive an old 80s TD is london and even i'm embarrassed by the crap modern diesels spew out, why is it my 75BHP TD can accelerate with no billowing of soot or piss smelling eye stinging fumes and still get similar MPG to the modern stuff? why do modern diesels NEED to have 200+ BHP when 100 will do ?
The obv answer IMHO is simple, electric trams, the saving on the s
te busses put out would offset the rest of the diesels in city centers, yes there will still be polution but there will be only the one producer to limit/filter/control, that of the chimney at the power station and PS are more efficient than a ICE.
As for cars limit the size of the cars allowed into the city, the amount of cruise liner sized mercs and bms i see with only 1 person in them is, frankly stupid when the same journey could be done in a smaller car with less power, higher MPG and lower emissions.
The measure of efficiency is the amount of power produced for a given quantity of fuel burnt, and `some' power stations are reasonable in this respect, but fuel efficiency is rated in terms of ALL the emissions arising from taking the fuel from source to the point of delivery. Whilst electricity is deemed 100% efficient at point of use, it is currently the least efficient fuel in terms of its overall fuel to usable energy ratio. That is why electricity currently, has the worst government fuel factor of any general fuels used in the UK. The obv answer IMHO is simple, electric trams, the saving on the s
te busses put out would offset the rest of the diesels in city centers, yes there will still be polution but there will be only the one producer to limit/filter/control, that of the chimney at the power station and PS are more efficient than a ICE.As for cars limit the size of the cars allowed into the city, the amount of cruise liner sized mercs and bms i see with only 1 person in them is, frankly stupid when the same journey could be done in a smaller car with less power, higher MPG and lower emissions.
Once we have electricity generation based on nuclear power stations this will change, but at present electricity is disastrous in terms of its effect on (for example) building energy ratings.
Considering how small and how insignificant our contribution to the grand scheme of things is, "being in the forefront" of cutting irrelevant gases seems one big waste of time and money.
So we cut Co2 - no change. Tax diesels more - no change. Make the whole of London pedestrianised perhaps?
Not going to happen. No matter what the charges are, there will be those that can afford to pay them and the costs simply get passed down to those that can't.
Maybe in this tech savvy world it may be an idea to stop cramming everything into London. Just a thought.After all its not the only place to do business in the UK.
So we cut Co2 - no change. Tax diesels more - no change. Make the whole of London pedestrianised perhaps?
Not going to happen. No matter what the charges are, there will be those that can afford to pay them and the costs simply get passed down to those that can't.
Maybe in this tech savvy world it may be an idea to stop cramming everything into London. Just a thought.After all its not the only place to do business in the UK.
With these feet said:
Considering how small and how insignificant our contribution to the grand scheme of things is, "being in the forefront" of cutting irrelevant gases seems one big waste of time and money.
So we cut Co2 - no change. Tax diesels more - no change. Make the whole of London pedestrianised perhaps?
Not going to happen. No matter what the charges are, there will be those that can afford to pay them and the costs simply get passed down to those that can't.
Maybe in this tech savvy world it may be an idea to stop cramming everything into London. Just a thought.After all its not the only place to do business in the UK.
Certainly re the latter, we should be building another Heathrow in the North and a Canary Wharf with high speed train links to all major cities instead of HS2 which is just going to turn more towns in the north into London dormitories. So we cut Co2 - no change. Tax diesels more - no change. Make the whole of London pedestrianised perhaps?
Not going to happen. No matter what the charges are, there will be those that can afford to pay them and the costs simply get passed down to those that can't.
Maybe in this tech savvy world it may be an idea to stop cramming everything into London. Just a thought.After all its not the only place to do business in the UK.
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