RE: Toyota Auris SR180: Unsung hero
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muppets_mate said:
Rammy76 said:
The 306 D Turbo must've been the first accomplished diesel hot hatch, I was very impressed when I drove one for the first time.
Rammy76 said:
The 306 D Turbo must've been the first accomplished diesel hot hatch, I was very impressed when I drove one for the first time.
Build quality was s
t but boy it was fun, it would cock a rear wheel when asked without any problems. MPG was rubbish but it wanted hooning everywhere so no surprises.
I remember encountering one of these some years back in the Derbyshire hills near Glossop.
I was in a MK2 MR2 and followed it as it exited a roundabout at a fair lick, so I gave chase expecting to reel it in and overtake it in short order.
Nope.
It took all of about a minute to leave me for dead and pull away beyond my field of vision leaving me red faced!
I was in a MK2 MR2 and followed it as it exited a roundabout at a fair lick, so I gave chase expecting to reel it in and overtake it in short order.
Nope.
It took all of about a minute to leave me for dead and pull away beyond my field of vision leaving me red faced!
Alfa159Ti said:
Escort Si-130 said:
Its a bloody diesel, pathetic and pointless
As someone who lists such motoring greats as the Ford Orion and Nissan Cherry in their past garage, clearly this lowly Toyota has nothing to offer such a performance car connoisseur... 
I looked at these, as they are priced similarly to the Civic 2.2 diesel. In stark contrast, the Civic doesn't have the same peaky-powerband, but a more linear rev-happy engine (unusual for a diesel). As a result, real world performance isn't much different despite the ~ 35bhp defecit. The Civic benefits from a much more economical engine and is seemingly just as reliable as the Toyota, whilst not looking quite so "White Goods" as the Auris does so well.
It's OK, but there's a reason the diesel Lexus IS220s mentioned in the article aren't that expensive either - the engine is a bit of a dinosaur.
It's OK, but there's a reason the diesel Lexus IS220s mentioned in the article aren't that expensive either - the engine is a bit of a dinosaur.
While I love hot variants of Toyota hatches (Corolla GTi, Yaris T Sport, Starlet GT), this is a poor show from Toyota. The Auris, even in this top spec version, looks like a Smeg fridge with wheels, the interior devoid of any glamour or exceitment and to offer no petrol version the final nail in the coffin. I just don't feel it has a point. It was out the same time as the FN2 Civic Type R which destryoed it in every single respect (fuel economy aside) and wasn't any more expensive either!
The Auris represents, to my eyes at least, Toyota at their absolute worst. That applies to both this and the current generation. I can't believe they have even sold a single one when any of the competition's equivalents do everything the Auris does, but better.
This post sounds quite harsh and to be honest, I really wanted to like the Auris SR. I think if you took the current generation Auris, gave it a sleeker 3 door body and popped in a modified FA20 out of the GT86 it might work as a decent hatch. Only problem is, countless others do similar already!
The Auris represents, to my eyes at least, Toyota at their absolute worst. That applies to both this and the current generation. I can't believe they have even sold a single one when any of the competition's equivalents do everything the Auris does, but better.
This post sounds quite harsh and to be honest, I really wanted to like the Auris SR. I think if you took the current generation Auris, gave it a sleeker 3 door body and popped in a modified FA20 out of the GT86 it might work as a decent hatch. Only problem is, countless others do similar already!
BristolLee said:
I had one fly past me in my Celica AND my friend in a 380bhp supercharged Celica up Tog Hill near Bristol. It left both of us for dead.
As it happened, he was at the exhaust place we were going to. It was running 210bhp from a remap and freer pipe.
Were you trying to keep up? Or was it more the case you could as well have been in a Veyron as the speed differential was so great he was half a mile ahead by the time you accelerated?As it happened, he was at the exhaust place we were going to. It was running 210bhp from a remap and freer pipe.
I feel myself wanting to stick up for the SR180 - in part at least.
Personally I liked the look and feel of the car (mine was an '08 model in dark blue) and would certainly disagree with those who call it bland or dull. It's all subjective I suppose. I certainly think it's a more interesting car to look at and sit in than most of its contemporaries (Focus, Astra, Golf, A3, Leon, etc.)
Performance-wise it knocks spots off my current A3 170 TDi. Yes the power band is fairly narrow but from 50 to *faster* overtaking it's superb.
Likewise, handling (thanks to the multilink rear setup) is head and shoulders above my current A3 and Mrs P's Astra 150, though we found that the low ride height meant grounding on a fairly regular basis.
I bought one assuming the fuel economy tales were 'worst case scenario' internet scaremongering. In my case they all held true - I sold it after less than a year of mixed driving averaging 29.something MPG. Which probably puts it into Type R territory and certainly is affecting prices.
As above - EGR needs cleaning regularly - ours clogged and put us into limp mode a couple of times. We also had issues with an exhaust heatshield coming away and making a racket.
Personally I liked the look and feel of the car (mine was an '08 model in dark blue) and would certainly disagree with those who call it bland or dull. It's all subjective I suppose. I certainly think it's a more interesting car to look at and sit in than most of its contemporaries (Focus, Astra, Golf, A3, Leon, etc.)
Performance-wise it knocks spots off my current A3 170 TDi. Yes the power band is fairly narrow but from 50 to *faster* overtaking it's superb.
Likewise, handling (thanks to the multilink rear setup) is head and shoulders above my current A3 and Mrs P's Astra 150, though we found that the low ride height meant grounding on a fairly regular basis.
I bought one assuming the fuel economy tales were 'worst case scenario' internet scaremongering. In my case they all held true - I sold it after less than a year of mixed driving averaging 29.something MPG. Which probably puts it into Type R territory and certainly is affecting prices.
As above - EGR needs cleaning regularly - ours clogged and put us into limp mode a couple of times. We also had issues with an exhaust heatshield coming away and making a racket.
We had one and it was dog st. It was the biggest motoring mistake we made and I have absolutely no idea what made us buy it.... (cheap deal as we knew dealer principal and we wanted a pokey derv)
It was boring to drive - it did not handle at all.
Pig Ugly to look at
Fuel Consumption was st - this engine is known to chew fuel and after while itself.
During our short ownership we had an engine rebuild as it chomped itself. My parents had an IS220d with the same lump and during their ownership they had a spanking new engine off a crate which also chomped itself....
We then had many many other problems. Thankfully the car was still under warranty but during out short ownership (12months) the car had £12,000 of work carried out at Toyota.
After our last bout of problems we left the car at the garage and told them we'd rather come pick up a cheque than the car and this is what we did. They paid us off and we went and bought something else...
We may have had a dog, but I would personally tell anybody considering this motor to completely avoid it. Much better cars out there for the same cash..... I cannot find a positive point unless you are getting an unbelievable deal...
t. It was the biggest motoring mistake we made and I have absolutely no idea what made us buy it.... (cheap deal as we knew dealer principal and we wanted a pokey derv)It was boring to drive - it did not handle at all.
Pig Ugly to look at
Fuel Consumption was s
t - this engine is known to chew fuel and after while itself. During our short ownership we had an engine rebuild as it chomped itself. My parents had an IS220d with the same lump and during their ownership they had a spanking new engine off a crate which also chomped itself....
We then had many many other problems. Thankfully the car was still under warranty but during out short ownership (12months) the car had £12,000 of work carried out at Toyota.
After our last bout of problems we left the car at the garage and told them we'd rather come pick up a cheque than the car and this is what we did. They paid us off and we went and bought something else...
We may have had a dog, but I would personally tell anybody considering this motor to completely avoid it. Much better cars out there for the same cash..... I cannot find a positive point unless you are getting an unbelievable deal...
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