RE: Jaguar F-Pace spy photos

RE: Jaguar F-Pace spy photos

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csd19

2,170 posts

116 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Eviltad said:
Trying to work out what was going on with the IP.

It either looks like a sticker of a VDU stuck on OR rear projection screen onto the flush surface of the IP.
Sticker methinks - zoom in on the picture and you can make out the wrinkles showing through the paper smile

P4ROT

1,219 posts

192 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Does anyone know want platform it's based on? Is it the size of an Evoque, Discovery or RR (amongst others)?

oldtimer2

728 posts

132 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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P4ROT said:
Does anyone know want platform it's based on? Is it the size of an Evoque, Discovery or RR (amongst others)?
It is based on the same, new body in white architecture used on the XE - no connection with any other JLR product. It is said to be able to accomodate different wheelbases (and widths?) so I would expect to see it on other future JLR products.

Jaguar needs a road focussed SUV, sales of which exceeded sedans in the USA last year for the first time.

P4ROT

1,219 posts

192 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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oldtimer2 said:
P4ROT said:
Does anyone know want platform it's based on? Is it the size of an Evoque, Discovery or RR (amongst others)?
It is based on the same, new body in white architecture used on the XE - no connection with any other JLR product. It is said to be able to accomodate different wheelbases (and widths?) so I would expect to see it on other future JLR products.

Jaguar needs a road focussed SUV, sales of which exceeded sedans in the USA last year for the first time.
Thanks for that. So it's a similar size to an Evoque (but not based on it). Should sell well IMHO.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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P4ROT said:
oldtimer2 said:
P4ROT said:
Does anyone know want platform it's based on? Is it the size of an Evoque, Discovery or RR (amongst others)?
It is based on the same, new body in white architecture used on the XE - no connection with any other JLR product. It is said to be able to accomodate different wheelbases (and widths?) so I would expect to see it on other future JLR products.

Jaguar needs a road focussed SUV, sales of which exceeded sedans in the USA last year for the first time.
Thanks for that. So it's a similar size to an Evoque (but not based on it). Should sell well IMHO.
Its quite a bit bigger than an Evoque

DonkeyApple

54,919 posts

168 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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chrispj said:
Howroyd said:
I just don't get it. Surely JLR will be cannibalizing their own LR/RR sales? I guess they have the platform there from the LR/RR, so perhaps the project cost isn't as high as a ground up project would be.
I believe it's based on the XE platform, not any LR/RR product. Also they claim it will be it is aimed to be better on road than off so maybe not so much overlap.
That's my understanding. The smaller LRs are based on a platform from someone like Ford? Whereas the Jag fk Face is all in-house. And that the fkFace is aimed at total road use so LR remains free to pedal the offroad mantra.

I think it's a good move for the brand. Having spent decades selling essentially just one model to one type of customer the last decade has been fantastic as they've steadily expanded the range into more important sectors and markets.

johnnnnnnyy

231 posts

189 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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kambites said:
J8 SVG said:
The VAG group have 3 versions of the Golf with VW, Skoda & SEAT.. Why would JLR not make several cars from the same architecture?
You missed the A3. smile
You also missed the Audi TT

Bencolem

1,013 posts

238 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Yes, but it's not really going to be called the F-Pace is it. Surely.

fatboy b

9,492 posts

215 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Why are they "spy" photos? That looks like it's on the public highway to me, or is that journo talk to sensationalise it?

fatboy b

9,492 posts

215 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Howroyd said:
I just don't get it. Surely JLR will be cannibalizing their own LR/RR sales? I guess they have the platform there from the LR/RR, so perhaps the project cost isn't as high as a ground up project would be.

Variety is the fruit of life, so the consumer should only be happy about more choice.
Not really. The Jaguar brand is still upmarket compared to the LR brand. Plus there are people out there who'd never buy a LR.

DanielSan

18,745 posts

166 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Every other car Jag make is a looker at the moment. So for an SUV I think this will be as well.

unsprung

5,467 posts

123 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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oldtimer2 said:
Jaguar needs a road focussed SUV, sales of which exceeded sedans in the USA last year for the first time.
This is the key, I believe. The crossover utility vehicle (CUV) segment is on fire at the moment and this F Pace has the potential to earn massive volume and profit -- particularly in the US and China.

What's more, the Jaguar brand, as it is perceived in the US, may suffer at the moment from just a whiff of idle elitism. A range of CUVs at the right price points will help Jaguar to become more relevant to more people.

Looking at the years ahead... If we want more from Jaguar that is exquisite and feline (the lower-volume head-turning motors) let's hope that they sell loads of F Paces to line the corporate coffers.




Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

184 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Think I may have seen one of these in traffic earlier today - not sure. Seemed a bit small. Looked like an even smaller Evoque, but from a distance I could of sworn it looked like it had some kind of fabric / convertible roof?!

mattshiz

461 posts

140 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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mr_fibuli said:
Here's my spy shot from the M6 last week:

So thats what I saw leaving JLR solihull last week. Was wondering what it was.

andyps

7,817 posts

281 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Chicane-UK said:
Think I may have seen one of these in traffic earlier today - not sure. Seemed a bit small. Looked like an even smaller Evoque, but from a distance I could of sworn it looked like it had some kind of fabric / convertible roof?!
That could have been the Evoque convertible - they have been seen out in public.

Craikeybaby

10,369 posts

224 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Eviltad said:
Trying to work out what was going on with the IP.

It either looks like a sticker of a VDU stuck on OR rear projection screen onto the flush surface of the IP.
Yes, that looks like a sticker, good spot! A rear projection screen would be pretty good, as you don't have to stick to a rectangular screen - the designers would love that. But, there are issues with screen washout and packaging space.

I think the main reason JLR are building this is China. They like the old European brands, but don't really know their heritage. Whilst in the UK we think of Jaguar as making fast saloons, in China they just want an SUV with a Jaguar badge.

MyCC

337 posts

156 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I think Jaguar are being positioned as the sporty choice of the JLR Brand and the F-Pace will be better positioned to compete against the likes of Porsche with their SUVs than the current Evoque/Disco Sport manages at the mo.

Leave all the 4x4 heritage and off road ability to LR, Jaguar have much more freedom to focus on the on-road stuff. They cannot be without an SUV model either, it is the fastest growing segment worldwide currently. Simple business sense.

Regards,

MyCC.

Sump

5,484 posts

166 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Devon Dubber said:
My brother was driving this in these photos.... cool huh!
Sorry to hear that mate frown

Chin up and all that.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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According to the tax details it has a 3.0 diesel. Presumably the 3.0 litre 275bhp Turbo?

johnnnnnnyy said:
kambites said:
J8 SVG said:
The VAG group have 3 versions of the Golf with VW, Skoda & SEAT.. Why would JLR not make several cars from the same architecture?
You missed the A3. smile
You also missed the Audi TT
Also the Beetle and Scirocco, which are just Golfs in drag.