MOT failure - what next?

MOT failure - what next?

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pinchmeimdreamin

9,837 posts

217 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Limpet said:
Slight question mark over the cause of the indicator issue aside,
Possibly connected to the Hazard switch issue.

RKDE

569 posts

209 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Wow that is pricey for what is required. J&R are OK, I have used them quite a lot in the past but they are very local so I drive and collect. Never had an issue but the quality has gone down over the last few years

Would have thought a smaller garage would charge a lot less to do the work - £200 / £300 ish

As for scrap value, £200 should be achievable maybe more £250??

Spangles

1,441 posts

184 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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PhillipM said:
aks7297 said:
Try these guys for drive shafts they are pretty good

http://www.jandrcvjoints.co.uk/search.php?search_q...
They're pretty cheap, but I'd argue on the 'good' bit.
Good is another matter entirely, in fact, after dealing with their customer service, I refuse to use them at all any more, for anything, they're terrible.
Really? I've had about 10 joints/driveshafts from them in the last few years, always been fine.

SnailTrail

107 posts

119 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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TeaVR said:
Here it is - thanks -

|http://thumbsnap.com/UR4ZCcZN[/url]
001: Get a replacement switch/panel from the scrappy?

002: Is that all indicators? If so, could be the stalk? I'd try a scrappy.

003: Probably a bulb, 40p at Halfords will answer that. If not - broken wire somewhere?

004 & 005: I would try and source a complete driveshaft from the scrappy for the offending side, sorting both of these issues in a oner on the cheap. They're usually not that difficult to replace on FWD cars.

006: Again, get one off eBay/scrappy. Easy to fit if you have spring clamps.

007 & 008: Usually if the headlight aim is off at the MOT they tend to adjust it to pass it. However since they haven't, headlight adjustment isn't likely to cost you much more than £10.

This is assuming you are prepared/know how to do the work. The garage quote of £700 will be for brand new parts and labour, doing all of this yourself would cost a couple of hundred quid at most I'd say...

Spangles

1,441 posts

184 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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SnailTrail said:
TeaVR said:
Here it is - thanks -

|http://thumbsnap.com/UR4ZCcZN[/url]
001: Get a replacement switch/panel from the scrappy?

002: Is that all indicators? If so, could be the stalk? I'd try a scrappy.
1 and 2 have the same solution, new hazard switch.

Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Front coil spring is £40, do both on the front so £80.
Part Number 454VG1280 at gsfcarparts.com

The CV joint - if its the outer joint they are £24-25 at euro car parts.
If its the inner it looks like you need to buy a new driveshaft which start from £55.

I can't imagine its any more than 2 hours to fit both items, so £250 all in ??


SnailTrail

107 posts

119 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Spangles said:
1 and 2 have the same solution, new hazard switch.
Well there you go - 2 bird with one switch.

PhillipM

6,515 posts

188 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Spangles said:
Really? I've had about 10 joints/driveshafts from them in the last few years, always been fine.
Well, had a driveshaft from them that had more play when it arrived than the worn out one did, and after 3 brake calipers that were damaged/dangerous before even fitting them, and them then basically just ignoring any calls about them and keeping the money for them even after they'd agreed a refund, then no, I wouldn't recommend anyone uses them.
In fact, with the current 33% off at GSF, and them giving a core refund on driveshafts, I'd be asking the rep that's just popped up on here for a price.

Where are you in the country OP? Someone on here might have a look at the CV joint for you if you're local, it may be just the boot that's gone and they're covering themselves with the CV itself.

Edited by PhillipM on Friday 30th January 18:21

MattHall91

1,268 posts

123 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Stick a couple of flagstones in the boot and take it to your local scrappy.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

173 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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I would take it somewhere cheaper and get it fixed, should be possible for < £500 surely. 2003 passat with 150k is still worth at least £1000, unless it is a total dog. Repairing is nearly always cheaper than replacing by the time you have been shafted at both ends by the dealer and then repaired the inevitable £200 - £300 niggles on a second hand purchase.

Edited by VolvoT5 on Friday 30th January 18:37

pinchmeimdreamin

9,837 posts

217 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Or By the parts with the help of guidance from PHer's.

Nip to Tesco/Asda/Waitrose and buy a crate of beer.


Invite a couple of local Pher's around to help you fix it wink

Toaster Pilot

14,615 posts

157 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Those repair prices are ridiculous.

No idea why people think it's worth 250 quid in scrap either though - scrap prices are nowhere near that high. 250 quid to someone that will fix and sell on maybe!

It might well need a new headlight unit - prone to failure if it's the same unit as my 1999 A6 was.

Megaflow

9,347 posts

224 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Crafty_ said:
Front coil spring is £40, do both on the front so £80.
Part Number 454VG1280 at gsfcarparts.com

The CV joint - if its the outer joint they are £24-25 at euro car parts.
If its the inner it looks like you need to buy a new driveshaft which start from £55.

I can't imagine its any more than 2 hours to fit both items, so £250 all in ??
What he said, plus the spring and knackered shaft are on the same side and most of the work required for one, is the same for the other.

Toaster Pilot

14,615 posts

157 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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If it's the same suspension setup as my A6 was, expect a little bit extra charge for the driveshaft job - that bloody pinch bolt on the upper arm is ridiculous.

Not 600 quid or whatever though, wtf

Rich_W

12,548 posts

211 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Spangles said:
Is the car making terrible noises when being driven, especially when cornering? If not I'd question the CV joint failure. Was this a large multinational with targets to meet?

And even if it is a legitimate test, the prices are ridiculous, £200 will have that all fixed.
If ever 1 quote on this thread summed up the problems the motor trade face rolleyes Too many pub mechanics. "ooh £X hundred. I reckon have that done for a 1/3 of that"

As I happen to know VWs pretty well, and MOTs I'll break it down.

1 and 2 Yep it'll be a Hazard switch. eBay says around £10-15 + Labour to fit. So lets say £5 labour since it's not a massive job (£20 done)

3 Bulb. Possibly because the lamp itself is corroded to hell. £10ish and another £5 to fit (fk knows where anyone thinks a festoon bulb is 40 pence from Halfords own website says £2. Maybe 30 years ago it was 40 pence laugh ) (£15 done)

4 Is a CV Gaitor. ECP will be around £15-20 for the parts. But the vast majority of that will be labour. Around an hour and a bit. So Perhaps £50-80 depending on garage or main dealer. (£80 done)

5 CV joint is available separately but without seeing it can't tell if it's cheaper overall to do a new shaft. Again hour-ish to change a complete shaft or more labour but lesser costs if the guy wants to just do the joint. (£100 for joint change or £200 shaft complete)

6 Spring will be £60ish. But labour on a multi link front 150K mile Passat will be at least 2 hours if not 3 if it all looks badly corroded. As a poster earlier said it's a pain in the arse if anythings seized (and he's right that long bolt will definetly be!) (£220 fitted)

7 and 8 are tricky. The insides can break and it be un-adjustable which would mean pair of headlamps (ECP have Hellas at £130 each) which means bumper off to fit. So estimate £50 for the pair. But if it was just a case of winding the adjuster up. Charging around £5 would be acceptable (though 99.99% places do it FOC) (FOC or £300 if it wants lamps)

So £435 if it doesn't want new headlamps. £735 with.

(Labour prices =£50 p/h Obviously everything plus VAT)

Not horrendous really if the work is justified and not upsell for the sake of upsell.

t400ble

1,804 posts

120 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Get a shaft from J and R as said

Thats not a £700 list of work. Get some more prices

No way is that car scrap!

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,186 posts

199 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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SnailTrail said:
003: Probably a bulb, 40p at Halfords will answer that.
In 1984 maybe?

PH = picking random numbers out of the air matters.

Edited by DrDoofenshmirtz on Friday 30th January 21:26

DJP

1,198 posts

178 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Rich_W said:
If ever 1 quote on this thread summed up the problems the motor trade face rolleyes Too many pub mechanics. "ooh £X hundred. I reckon have that done for a 1/3 of that"...
Yep, and all without even seeing the vehicle. rolleyes

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,186 posts

199 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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DJP said:
Rich_W said:
If ever 1 quote on this thread summed up the problems the motor trade face rolleyes Too many pub mechanics. "ooh £X hundred. I reckon have that done for a 1/3 of that"...
Yep, and all without even seeing the vehicle. rolleyes
I know...imagine having to deal with these morons on a daily basis!

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

194 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Enjoy stripping down the front hubs to replace the cv gators on a 150k passat, the top link retaing bolts will for sure be seized solid (the buggers are about 4 inches long and retain the upper two arms). When you actually factor in what's involved etc the price isn't massively over the top especially if they are going to replace full drive shafts.

Carl