Nice 'Ferrari'

[Europa1]

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

PanzerCommander said:

In all fairness to me that's a pretty good replica. I'm not a Ferrari person and wouldn't be able to tell you if it was fake or not until he started the engine.

There are people here who will pretend to hate it for being a replica (the same reaction if you posted a picture of a fake Rolex in the watch forum)...but I agree, this does look pretty good.

As replicas go, it's better than many (but presume the owner is aware that the guys from maranello (not the ones in the red uniforms, but the ones in immaculately tailored suits with violin cases) are on their way to ensure it is crushed), but his error was inviting the newspapers to splash him as being worth £17m and being photographed with what was very quickly revealed as a fake Ferrari. If you're worth that cash, you'd have at least 2 genuine Ferraris. Schoolboy error.

[BugLebowski]

PanzerCommander said:

In all fairness to me that's a pretty good replica. I'm not a Ferrari person and wouldn't be able to tell you if it was fake or not until he started the engine.

It does actually look well enough finished compared to some replicas out there *cough/Zonda/cough* but could you imagine the crushing disappointment every time you turn the key/push the button and hear a rattly old Ford V6 fire up instead of a Ferrari V8?

[TheHound]

Is he Mylo Rose's Cousin?

[cornet]

Potatoes said:

[PanzerCommander]

BugLebowski said:

PanzerCommander said:

In all fairness to me that's a pretty good replica. I'm not a Ferrari person and wouldn't be able to tell you if it was fake or not until he started the engine.

It does actually look well enough finished compared to some replicas out there *cough/Zonda/cough* but could you imagine the crushing disappointment every time you turn the key/push the button and hear a rattly old Ford V6 fire up instead of a Ferrari V8?

Yeah that's when you would know as a bystander that its not real. The lack hollow bark from that flat plane crank V8 as the engine is started would be a give away.

That Zonda 'replica' was quite hideous.

[R36vw]

In all fairness ...what insurance company is even going to be prepared to quote a 430 for an 18yr old. No matter what they are worth. I had a few companies refuse to insure me on my 1st year ferrari ownership, even though in my 40's with max no claims. It is a DNA rep but as an 18yr old(how many of us remember that?) what a great car to have? It's not real and many do slate this but there is a market for this. It's the first time where I realise where this has a place and as a teen I would have bitten someone's right arm off to have had this.
The rest of the story on what he's made seems to quadruple with every press publication....b0l!!0X. He's done well but get it right..please

[carinaman]

thelawnet said:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6204...
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Meet-Plymouth-teen...

Walter Mitty's wheels.

Seems he's got a lot more coverage now:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3126178/Te...

They've not picked up on the fact that it's not a Ferrari.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 17th June 03:39

[carinaman]

TheHound said:

Is he Mylo Rose's Cousin?

I looked up the reference and a Mylo was mentioned last week in the thread about the former MoD Secretary that helped herself to £100,000 in expenses in the last few days before she left the MoD.

This Cook chap and Mylo Rose seem to operate in the same way and they both seem like they could benefit from spending some time in a gym.

[DonkeyApple]

carinaman said:

thelawnet said:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6204...
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Meet-Plymouth-teen...

Walter Mitty's wheels.

Seems he's got a lot more coverage now:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3126178/Te...

They've not picked up on the fact that it's not a Ferrari.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 17th June 03:39

When I was reading the Plymouth article a moment ago I knew it was a set up to a Ponzi scheme.

It's a standard formula article seeded as an advert to then privately market an investment product. And if the profits had been smaller and more believable then it would have been a covert advert by a Cyprus forex broker to sucker in mug punters.

[carinaman]

DonkeyApple said:

When I was reading the Plymouth article a moment ago I knew it was a set up to a Ponzi scheme.

It's a standard formula article seeded as an advert to then privately market an investment product. And if the profits had been smaller and more believable then it would have been a covert advert by a Cyprus forex broker to sucker in mug punters.

Searching on his name and Ferrari it comes across several links to dodgy investment sites.

One was pushing V8Turbinator or something that would pick all of the right trades for you at the right time and that's simple that housewives and postmen can use it.

I think the source of the article is one of those agencies that offers to buy 'stories' and then punts it to newspapers. Perhaps the newspapers knew it was all fake and just printed it so they could then out him as a fake?

I'm feel a bit sorry for him. I suspect that he may not be too bright.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 17th June 07:39

[anonymous-user]

R36vw said:

In all fairness ...what insurance company is even going to be prepared to quote a 430 for an 18yr old. No matter what they are worth. I had a few companies refuse to insure me on my 1st year ferrari ownership, even though in my 40's with max no claims. It is a DNA rep but as an 18yr old(how many of us remember that?) what a great car to have? It's not real and many do slate this but there is a market for this. It's the first time where I realise where this has a place and as a teen I would have bitten someone's right arm off to have had this.
The rest of the story on what he's made seems to quadruple with every press publication....b0l!!0X. He's done well but get it right..please

On the link posted on the first page he's claimed to have owned a Corvette, Carrera 4S and a real 348. I smell something!

[Mr2Mike]

carinaman said:

Seems he's got a lot more coverage now:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3126178/Te...

They've not picked up on the fact that it's not a Ferrari.

Unbelievable, they've pretty much repeated the entire original article, but only given a few lines to the fact that he's being done for fraud.

[carinaman]

Mr2Mike said:

Unbelievable, they've pretty much repeated the entire original article, but only given a few lines to the fact that he's being done for fraud.

We should perhaps conclude that the standard of British journalism isn't quite up there with the build quality of the DNA F430 Scudo kit for the Ford Cougar?

I wonder if they've all just bought the same news item from the same news 'agency' that created the first 'story'?

Perhaps they are having to be careful of what they report before it goes to court?

The photo of him beside a window overlooking a car park with arrows. Is that photoshopped? Just overlaid his face and hair over a background of a view from a window in a tower block?

[DonkeyApple]

carinaman said:

DonkeyApple said:

When I was reading the Plymouth article a moment ago I knew it was a set up to a Ponzi scheme.

It's a standard formula article seeded as an advert to then privately market an investment product. And if the profits had been smaller and more believable then it would have been a covert advert by a Cyprus forex broker to sucker in mug punters.

Searching on his name and Ferrari it comes across several links to dodgy investment sites.

One was pushing V8Turbinator or something that would pick all of the right trades for you at the right time and that's simple that housewives and postmen can use it.

I think the source of the article is one of those agencies that offers to buy 'stories' and then punts it to newspapers. Perhaps the newspapers knew it was all fake and just printed it so they could then out him as a fake?

I'm feel a bit sorry for him. I suspect that he may not be too bright.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 17th June 07:39

Ah, the amazing 'black box' that even Doris can make work.

These are just stories that you pay a PR agent to put together and they then sell them to the tabloids. None of these stories are actually written by journalists they are basically adverts via PR agencies.

I had the pleasure of coming across one of these firms and they basically make up a story around your product and then put it on the desk of their party buddy who runs it as a story.

It's like all those 'food gives you cancer' stories, they are all delivered by PR firms hired by universities to garner publicity when seeking research investment etc.

Almost every tabloid article and very, very many broad sheet tales are paid adverts via PR agencies.

[carinaman]

DonkeyApple said:

It's like all those 'food gives you cancer' stories, they are all delivered by PR firms hired by universities to garner publicity when seeking research investment etc.

Almost every tabloid article and very, very many broad sheet tales are paid adverts via PR agencies.

I thought I heard a repeat of the Chocolate is good for you story yesterday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-the-chocolate-diet...


I'm struggling to see why a Journo with a name, and an Editor with a newspaper title would run with a BS advertorial? I'm now wondering if the Ford Cougar owner paid the local paper to run with it. The Sun ran with it so surely they look a bit silly again too?

If the owner of the fake Ferrari did £100,000 of fraud I think he'll get about two years given on these two cases:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068837/Fe...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3116942/Ar...

[DonkeyApple]

carinaman said:

DonkeyApple said:

It's like all those 'food gives you cancer' stories, they are all delivered by PR firms hired by universities to garner publicity when seeking research investment etc.

Almost every tabloid article and very, very many broad sheet tales are paid adverts via PR agencies.

I thought I heard a repeat of the Chocolate is good for you story yesterday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-the-chocolate-diet...


I'm struggling to see why a Journo with a name, and an Editor with a newspaper title would run with a BS advertorial? I'm now wondering if the Ford Cougar owner paid the local paper to run with it. The Sun ran with it so surely they look a bit silly again too?

If the owner of the fake Ferrari did £100,000 of fraud I think he'll get about two years given on these two cases:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068837/Fe...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3116942/Ar...

All a journo at this level does is wait to be called by a PR firm and told what to publish or download that day's PR releases and chose the ones that best suit the advertising space that has been sold for that story slot. At best they'll also draw down a few Newsire releases and make some stuff up around that and publish it.

The Metro is a really good working example of how every single article is an advertorial via the PR network. Most reports are only commissioned by firms so that the PR agent can spin the report into an advert down the line.

For ponzi scenes and investment frauds before you can cold call your victims you need to get positive articles in the right media. The right media being the Sun or Aily Mail. That way, when you are priming your victim you can show them legitimate links to legitimised stories relating to that product. In the case of this example, the articles would have been used to sell either the black box trading system or to raise investment into the scheme.

Other examples of this are articles relating to fine wine or overseas property that are seeded in the media and then used by a boiler room to sell non existent wine or plots.

A real favourite is the story about a kid who throws lavish impromptu bar parties and the faked bar bill is then released to the media via a PR agent. Look for photos of massive bottles of champagne or drinks bills for tens of K. These stories are faked to either promote a drinks launch, a bar launch or a home trading scam.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Wednesday 17th June 09:25

[carinaman]

So in this fake Ferrari case, a local rag has run with that story in January while at other times the same local rag has probably run with a press release from the police warning people to watch out for boiler room scams?



So the local rag is knowlingly or unwittingly helping to promote a scam that may stitch up those that buy the newspaper?

[DonkeyApple]

The Herald is owned by Local World and may have a syndication deal with the Sun. It was bought from the Daily Mail which maybe why they readily ran a knocking story.

[gazchap]

St John Smythe said:

On the link posted on the first page he's claimed to have owned a Corvette, Carrera 4S and a real 348. I smell something!

Not the same guy, I think. That guy is a previous owner of the Fauxrari.

[carinaman]

DonkeyApple said:

Other examples of this are articles relating to fine wine or overseas property that are seeded in the media and then used by a boiler room to sell non existent wine or plots.

This news item (the how I made £21 Million from £2K one) is now doing the rounds with GFT under it on newspaper websites under that Taboola banner.