RE: Porsche Cayman GT4 - official!

[SidewaysSi]

P155flaps said:

CJP80 said:

I'd be nervous of spunking over £65K on a car that comes with a 1 year, 6,000mile warranty.

Me too given my ownership experience of the Evora - 1 year 6,000 screams that they know bits will fall off after hard use.

Shame as epic car!

The Cup is mechanically similar to the standard car so I wouldn't be too bothered. They are a simple car and plenty of specialists if things go wrong. However engine etc are Toyota parts and I believe quite robust.

[Denno B]

If this car is is as good as we can expect then it will be great value to get into at Gt car. Especially now that you need £150k for a 991 Gt3, £70k for a 997 and virtually no 996 gt3's for sale. Fair play to those lucky enough to have got their deposits in early to secure one.

[ratty6464]

I've well and truly missed the boat on this one.

All the dealers I spoke to this morning have got in the region of 20 deposits each.

The honest dealers said it's unlikely that many people will get a GT4 who didn't get their loi in before the car was officially announced.

With the prospect of circa 200 being made for the uk and 35 porsche dealers, well done to those that got their money down early

[CJP80]

ratty6464 said:

I've well and truly missed the boat on this one.

All the dealers I spoke to this morning have got in the region of 20 deposits each.

The honest dealers said it's unlikely that many people will get a GT4 who didn't get their loi in before the car was officially announced.

With the prospect of circa 200 being made for the uk and 35 porsche dealers, well done to those that got their money down early

I haven't yet put my deposit down but I had a LoI in 6 weeks ago. Where am I likely to stand?

[twinturban]

P155flaps said:

CJP80 said:

I'd be nervous of spunking over £65K on a car that comes with a 1 year, 6,000mile warranty.

Me too given my ownership experience of the Evora - 1 year 6,000 screams that they know bits will fall off after hard use.

Shame as epic car!

Totally unfounded negativity.

The cheaper V6S comes with a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty. Plus 8 year chassis corrosion warranty.

No mention of that from Porsche.

V6 Cup has 12 month warranty which is very unusual for a genuine motorsport product. Racing cars don't usually have any warranty at all. There is none whatsoever for the 991 GT3 Cup car.

[ChrisW.]

Sampaio said:

People were saying the GT4 is a track-focused car and the Evora is just a daily sports car. I believe things are not quite like that, hence my response. (besides, I'm definitely not flogging the Lotus, quite the opposite)

The new-ish Evora will be in Geneva, yes. Hoping for a good one!

I also hope it will be very good --- I so nearly bought a Lotus Exige but ... I trust Porsche more at the moment, and taking the number plates off on a track day has never been my style ...

It may also be that the target price of the GT4 had to take account of the Evora .... competition is good !

The 991 GT3 is £25k more and that isn't a Mezger engine either, though it is full Dry Sump.

I'm trusting Andreas P ....

Edited by ChrisW. on Saturday 7th February 19:06

[ChrisW.]

-Z- said:

Maybe you got confused while you were finding every negative Cayman post but I didn't say anything about how it drove.

Making the point about passing GT3s on track is such a cliche, otherwise ask the 911 Turbo driver I lapped repeatedly ten years ago in my Civic Type R what he thinks of Civics

I just made the point that I haven't really met anyone who thinks the Cayman R (or any other 987) is a spectacularly good looking car (unlike the 981).

Value wise the Cayman R only seems to be trading about £4k above the normal 3.4S Cayman. Indeed they have lost 23% in 3yrs. A good performance, but not spectacular and well beaten in desirability by the 1M as the comparative depreciation curves prove.

I agree, on the value stakes I also had the option on a 1M. But ??

And I have had great value out of the CR.

[ChrisW.]

braddo said:

I seem to recall The Wookie on here had described the Evora as being about halfway between a standard Carrera and a GT3 in terms of its focus and how it felt on road and track. So, I expect a fair bit more comfort and a little more softness than a GT4 but it can still have fun on track without issues (e.g. AP brakes).

Looks like ChrisW had a rather long liquid lunch celebrating his place in the queue for a GT4.

Not enough to make a difference

Yes I agree the CR brakes were not good enough, hence I opted for the PCCB's which in 35k miles and many track days have been fantastic, but expensive in half used disk pads.

I think the GT3 brakes on the GT4 should do the job ... but Exige would be the second on my list ... had the dealership not told me that track days void the warranty ...

Sorry if I came over too strong ...

[ratty6464]

CJP80 said:

I haven't yet put my deposit down but I had a LoI in 6 weeks ago. Where am I likely to stand?

From the few dealers I've spoken to you may be in with a chance.

If I were you I'd definitely get your deposit it - have they given you any indication where you are in the queue?

[farmwah]

Couldn't resist! I was on waiting list and got my order in yesterday. Spec: White, club sport, ceramics, carbon interior. Don't know when it will turn up though

[k-ink]

Re: Lotus

twinturban said:

230kgs lighter.
No electric power steering.

This alone closes the argument for me.

twinturban said:

No struts - wishbones front and cast aluminium at the rear.
Bespoke Nitron 2 way adjustable dampers.
No £5k Carbon seats (they are standard).
2-piece floating disc brakes.
Baffled sump.
430bhp available for £6k.

Apparently there is a factory 400BHP version coming out too.

[P4ROT]

Better than a GT3? For me, yes definately.

[CJP80]

k-ink said:

Apparently there is a factory 400BHP version coming out too.

I loved the way the Exige drove - steering especially, but it just falls down too much in other areas. The interior is diabolically bad for a £65k car and despite what all these track warriors say, it still matters to most, even if the intention is for the car to be a weekend toy.

Having that kind of power in a cayman with the chassis set up of a GT3 will be immense.

The first company that can cost effectively retrofit the GT3 mechanical rack will make a fortune.

[cymario]

Hi everyone

has anybody received any extra information today regarding build numbers etc and whether you have been allocated a car?

[ratty6464]

I heard April was going to be the month for more info on build slots etc

[CJDemi]

As a current Exige V6 owner, I wish I had placed a deposit down on the GT4.

Just have to await figures of production now, though at the rate they seem to be going, I will be waiting for the GEN 2 model.

[andy97]

I hope that they build race versions for the GT4 market.

[GTRene]

some nice Technic, for example such front suspension...not 2 A arms...not even one
nice concept though and some lovely see through pics.

[GTRene]

http://www.ausmotive.com/2015/03/03/porsche-cayman...

[twinturban]

why not double wishbones?