RE: Honda Civic Type R - more details

RE: Honda Civic Type R - more details

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C.A.R.

3,967 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Dagnut said:
Guvernator said:
Didn't think they would tbh as that definitely looks like "show paint", it even appears to have some some subtle flip paint characteristics. For concept cars, they will often use special paint and clear coat which is 8-10 layers deep to give the cars that extra deep shine and "glow" for showing them off under show lights, a process which would be very difficult to product-ionise, for obvious reasons.

If you thought the £500-£1000 for the normal metallic paint option is expensive then you'd be in for a rude awakening smile
plus it adds significant weight
This is very true!

We were on the Alfa Romeo booth at Goodwood years ago when my dad was interested in the 159. He wondered what the fantastic red paint was on their show car and was told by one of the reps that if he wanted to spec that paint as an option it would cost around £15k!

It was much like their standard red, but a very deep pearl which did look really smart. Something must've gone very wrong after that show however because he ended up with an Astra!

TheJimi

25,001 posts

244 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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What do we think this will do for residuals of previous CTR's?

I can see values of FN2's dropping while EP3's firm up, and EK9's continue to go for a decent premium.

InfamousKeiran

712 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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TheJimi said:
What do we think this will do for residuals of previous CTR's?

I can see values of FN2's dropping while EP3's firm up, and EK9's continue to go for a decent premium.
I can see the FD2 probably leveling out at 12k.
The FN2 will probably continue to plummet apart from the Mugen.
EP3s will probably stay cheap for a good while.
EK9s will probably continue to command a scene tax.

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

151 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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InfamousKeiran said:
TheJimi said:
What do we think this will do for residuals of previous CTR's?

I can see values of FN2's dropping while EP3's firm up, and EK9's continue to go for a decent premium.
I can see the FD2 probably leveling out at 12k.
The FN2 will probably continue to plummet apart from the Mugen.
EP3s will probably stay cheap for a good while.
EK9s will probably continue to command a scene tax.
I'm not sure it's going to do anything to the rate of depreciation of the FN2. That car went out of production 4 years ago and is already so far apart from the list of a new CTR.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

185 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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i've just sold my Fn2 and still got a good price for it

Guvernator

13,161 posts

166 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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greggy50 said:
It is possible to have the fancy paint from manufactures Ford with its ST Electric Orange and RS Green are both 3 stage pearls. However downside is they are virtually impossible to match, a nightmare to spray and very expensive hence why I believe most manufacturers prefer a more standard paint finish. I believe the Orange on the Mk3 ST has reverted back to a standard metallic as well.
Yep some certainly do. TVR with their chromaflair (spelling) and you could also get the R34 Skyline GT-R in a colour called midnight purple 3, which was a 3 stage flip faint. One of my friends had one and when he enquired about getting some paint to respray the front end for stone chips, was told it would cost around £500 a litre and that didn't include the base coat or top coat! That and the fact no bodyshop wanted to touch it for fear of not being able to match if properly. After that he was VERY anal about where he parked it!

JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

176 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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So has the price got relevance to the hatch... or the potential of the Civic Type R Tourer?!

blearyeyedboy

6,303 posts

180 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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InfamousKeiran said:
The FN2 will probably continue to plummet apart from the Mugen.
"Plummet" is too strong a word. Remember that the first FN2's are nine years old now.
They hold their value pretty well compared to contemporaries.

Jonrav

31 posts

146 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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blearyeyedboy said:
"Plummet" is too strong a word. Remember that the first FN2's are nine years old now.
They hold their value pretty well compared to contemporaries.
I agree, especially since its the last K20 engined Honda - and a magnificent engine it is. I'm sure the new one will be good, but its another turbo, and I just can't see it having the same character by a long shot (although I am sure it'll still be better and more exciting than VAGs offerings).

DanielSan

18,804 posts

168 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Sneak shot before Monday...

macky17

2,212 posts

190 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Shame. Wasted opportunity.

Butter Face

30,328 posts

161 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Looks ace IMO. Can't wait to see it fully unveiled.

macky17

2,212 posts

190 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Butter Face said:
Looks ace IMO. Can't wait to see it fully unveiled.
You prefer the actual rear end to the concept??

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

202 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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macky17 said:
Shame. Wasted opportunity.
Yep... I thought the 'devil horns'was a brilliant touch... bit gutted if I'm being honest.

macky17

2,212 posts

190 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Maybe a deliberately leaked photo of the wrong car...

Crafty_

13,296 posts

201 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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The light clusters make it look very awkward and the removal of the detail at the top of the diffuser looks a bit lazy.

It'll probably sell well, but then so will the new Focus RS and thats proper ugly. These two cars are definitely rivals.

DanielSan

18,804 posts

168 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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macky17 said:
Maybe a deliberately leaked photo of the wrong car...
It'd be nice, but I think that's scraping the barrel of hope.

Butter Face

30,328 posts

161 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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macky17 said:
Butter Face said:
Looks ace IMO. Can't wait to see it fully unveiled.
You prefer the actual rear end to the concept??
I preferred the concept but I knew those lights would never make it to production.

The one above still looks brilliant.

blearyeyedboy

6,303 posts

180 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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macky17 said:
Shame. Wasted opportunity.
I know. Where am I going to rest my coffee cup and bacon roll on that? wink

It's pretty decent, and IMHO it looks 90% as nice as the devil horns, which were always going to be a long shot.

It's less important than The Time. To be honest though, that still doesn't tell us the most important thing, which is how much fun it'll be to drive. None of us will know that for a while yet but I'm hopeful.

I'm looking forward to video of The Lap though. driving