small chip = full respray

small chip = full respray

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dieseluser07

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117 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Hi all,

im after a bit of advice, i had my windscreen replaced by a franchise and they have damaged the paintwork on the wing, its small enough for a chip repair id imagine but when i told the garage they would foot the bill they went a bit overboard and did a quote for the bonnet, wing and door fully resprayed.

Now lets say the windscreen company accept this work would it be worth getting done or could a respray on one wing one door and a bonnet make the car mismatched, would it be worth just having a chip repair inatead? The plus side of getting the bonnet resprayed is it will get rid of all the other stone chips.

buckline

377 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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The issue may be to do with paint blending across the panels. I spent a small fortune with a highly thought of body shop recently to cover off the same issue.

MYOB

4,795 posts

139 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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I think the first thing to do is determine who will foot the bill. This will be the deciding factor in what level of work to undertake. If the windscreen company agrees to put everything right, then go along with the advice of the other garage to have the surrounding area sprayed too for blending purpose.

MYOB

4,795 posts

139 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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I think the first thing to do is determine who will foot the bill. This will be the deciding factor in what level of work to undertake. If the windscreen company agrees to put everything right, then go along with the advice of the other garage to have the surrounding area sprayed too for blending purpose.

dieseluser07

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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I mean my options are chip repair or full respray, if the windshield company would foot the bill i think i would go respray.

Im just not clued up having half the car sprayed, the bloke said he will do the door and bonnet to blend into the wing on one side, but not the other side and i wouldent notice it but surely if he has to blend it on one side its going to look a different colour on the other side? It all baffles me this blending in malarky.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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There's a lot to it, the colour of your car makes a huge difference.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Why not go with the chip repair first and see if it's acceptable and if not go with the respray?

dieseluser07

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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Monty Python said:
Why not go with the chip repair first and see if it's acceptable and if not go with the respray?
Because theres no chance id be able to claim for both its either one or the other

dieseluser07

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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StottyEvo said:
There's a lot to it, the colour of your car makes a huge difference.
In what way

underphil

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211 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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dieseluser07 said:
StottyEvo said:
There's a lot to it, the colour of your car makes a huge difference.
In what way
some colours just seem to match up perfectly, others don't !

StottyEvo

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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dieseluser07 said:
StottyEvo said:
There's a lot to it, the colour of your car makes a huge difference.
In what way
Flat black won't require much blending at all, a metallic blue will.

When I had my door blown in on my silver car the sprayer had to blend half of the rear door and some of the wing, for a small scratch. If he didn't the colour match wouldn't be un-noticeable.

dieseluser07

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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underphil said:
some colours just seem to match up perfectly, others don't !
Hmm

so one side sprayed should be ok if they do a proper job? Wouldent be able to notice?

dieseluser07

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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Ttt

jamieduff1981

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141 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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dieseluser07 said:
underphil said:
some colours just seem to match up perfectly, others don't !
Hmm

so one side sprayed should be ok if they do a proper job? Wouldent be able to notice?
They will sand the shine off the lacquer on all affected panels. Once flat, they'll paint the damaged panel. The adjacent panels will be sprayed directly where they join the damaged panel but the painter will rotate his wrist as he moves away from that panel gap so less and less paint lands on the panel the further from the damaged panel. By the opposite side none lands. They whole lot then gets lacquered again.

You end up with a fully repainted damaged panel but the new paint is graduated across the adjacent panels. I.e. if a wing is painted then the paint colour is graduated across the 5ft width of the bonnet and 3~4ft length of the front door. You thus won't see any colour contrast because it's so gradual.

As above, a solid black car is very easy to colour match quite well even with a sudden join. A silver typically sticks out like a sore thumb and needs to be graduated quite a distance to blend in well.

HTH

dieseluser07

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
They will sand the shine off the lacquer on all affected panels. Once flat, they'll paint the damaged panel. The adjacent panels will be sprayed directly where they join the damaged panel but the painter will rotate his wrist as he moves away from that panel gap so less and less paint lands on the panel the further from the damaged panel. By the opposite side none lands. They whole lot then gets lacquered again.

You end up with a fully repainted damaged panel but the new paint is graduated across the adjacent panels. I.e. if a wing is painted then the paint colour is graduated across the 5ft width of the bonnet and 3~4ft length of the front door. You thus won't see any colour contrast because it's so gradual.

As above, a solid black car is very easy to colour match quite well even with a sudden join. A silver typically sticks out like a sore thumb and needs to be graduated quite a distance to blend in well.

HTH
so as the mark is on the wing spraying the bonnet and door is essential? The colour is burgandy

saaby93

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179 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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dieseluser07 said:
jamieduff1981 said:
They will sand the shine off the lacquer on all affected panels. Once flat, they'll paint the damaged panel. The adjacent panels will be sprayed directly where they join the damaged panel but the painter will rotate his wrist as he moves away from that panel gap so less and less paint lands on the panel the further from the damaged panel. By the opposite side none lands. They whole lot then gets lacquered again.

You end up with a fully repainted damaged panel but the new paint is graduated across the adjacent panels. I.e. if a wing is painted then the paint colour is graduated across the 5ft width of the bonnet and 3~4ft length of the front door. You thus won't see any colour contrast because it's so gradual.

As above, a solid black car is very easy to colour match quite well even with a sudden join. A silver typically sticks out like a sore thumb and needs to be graduated quite a distance to blend in well.

HTH
so as the mark is on the wing spraying the bonnet and door is essential? The colour is burgandy
The only issue with the abve is the new laquer might loook different to the old laquer in the rest of the panels.
What type of mark are we talking about? Someone good with a finely trimmed touchup pen could be your best answer

Squiggs

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156 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Have you considered contacting a 'time established in the trade' Smart Repairer?
Good Smart Repairers can usually keep the repair within one panel.

Squiggs

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156 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Post a pic of the damage in the bodywork and detailing section and ask what should be done about it in there.
You'll get replies from guys that work in bodyshops and experienced smart repairers.

dieseluser07

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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Squiggs said:
Have you considered contacting a 'time established in the trade' Smart Repairer?
Good Smart Repairers can usually keep the repair within one panel.
The garage im looking at do smart repairs i might go back and enquire about that instead

Glassman

22,551 posts

216 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Windscreen replacement franchise??