Using a vacuum pump to change the oil.
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I have a Pela 6000 and first used it the other day. It took about 30 minutes to remove one of the seven or so litres of albeit cold oil. I had forgotten when changing the oil I was also going to replace a faulty oil level sensor and had all the cooling system off so couldn't run the engine to heat the oil. I gave up and removed the sump plug again.
So first outing was disappointing.
So first outing was disappointing.
SuperchargedVR6 said:
There's always some fine metal & plastic particles in the bottom of the pan afterwards, no doubt bearing & chain tensioner crumbs.
Really? What car? I've never found any 'bits' of anything in my sump. I've used the Pela for a few years. I was wary at first and dropped the sump plug after using the pump, no more than a teaspoon or two of oil comes out. there are certainly no bits in there.I've used my Pela on several cars. The only issue was with my daughter's 206, where the flexi-hose was a bit of a tight fit in the dipstick tube. Still worked though. On all others (mainly Yank V8s) it's been a Godsend. Other than the Raptor, which is so high I have to balance the receiver in the engine bay; not a fault of the Pela though.
I've used my Pela to do a trans oil change , it didn't get it all out but then neither does the sump plug , I sucked out what I coukd and then added the same amount of fresh , repeated the process a few weeks later.
You can't really use them for coolant as you need to drain the rad any how and that's the lowest point usually
Guess you could use it for pas but that's usually pretty easy to drain
Found it useful around the home draining a blocked sink etc
You can't really use them for coolant as you need to drain the rad any how and that's the lowest point usually
Guess you could use it for pas but that's usually pretty easy to drain
Found it useful around the home draining a blocked sink etc
dme123 said:
You get a lot of guesswork / ill informed statements that there will be stuff left or it won't get out the bits. Prompted by someone on here doing the same thing I have actually tried extracting via dipstick (hot oil from a recently running engine cuts the time it takes dramatically) and then taking the sump plug out when it's done. About a tablespoon, maybe 1.5 tablespoons trickled out.
You're correct... for 95% of engines. I owned, for my sins, a 98 Vauxhall Astra with a x16xel engine. This has a stepped sump with two oil baffles. The first one has a cutout for the dipstick, the second doesn't. There is no way to get a suction tube past the second baffle, so using a suction device leaves about half a liter of oil in the bottom (out of a 3l capacity).Hopefully no-one designs engines like that any more.
Edited by InfoRetrieval on Thursday 19th February 13:25
moustache said:
AdeTuono said:
Merely a comment on your second, duplicate post.
You seem like a lovely, well adjusted chap. Have you considered a career in the diplomatic service? T wat t.
Totally pointless though. Clearly too much time on your hands. You seem like a lovely, well adjusted chap. Have you considered a career in the diplomatic service? T wat t.
kers on internet forums. Life just doesn't get any better. 
AdeTuono said:
Actually, I have. Fully retired years ahead of my time, dedicate my spare hours, of which there are many, to burning up the Earth's resources via a selection of V8's and winding up wkers on internet forums. Life just doesn't get any better.
I guess getting banned from Internet forums will be another hobby?kers on internet forums. Life just doesn't get any better. I use a Pela 6000 and have found it to be very successful. It removes all but a tablespoon of the oil from the sump. The sump holds more than 6 litres of oil, so I use the Pela to remove it in two tranches. The oil doesn't cool that much in the time though - I guess it takes about two lots of 20 minutes. I've been very impressed with the Pela 6000.
Thanks for the lidl link whoever it was (posting via mobile and too lazy to go back and look) I'll hopefully pick one up monday. Should come in really handy for people, like me, who don't really have access to ramps/garage/drives to be able to get the car up to do a change. I can now hopefully do an oil change while the car is parked in the street outside the house. 
For all the "doesn't pick up the gunk at the bottom this way" comments, most of the teams in the WRC use a suction extraction for fluids during the event, so eiyher they aren't bothered about the metal particles leftover or there really can't be that much of an issue.
(Ignore the fact most engines are stripped and rebuilt after events, so even if gunk was left it wouldn't be as long term catastrophic as in our road cars)
For all the "doesn't pick up the gunk at the bottom this way" comments, most of the teams in the WRC use a suction extraction for fluids during the event, so eiyher they aren't bothered about the metal particles leftover or there really can't be that much of an issue.
(Ignore the fact most engines are stripped and rebuilt after events, so even if gunk was left it wouldn't be as long term catastrophic as in our road cars)
nails1979 said:
I have a pela 6000 and used it 3 times. On my qashqai, clio and my dads clio last year. All 1.5 k9 diesels. Very clean and easy. However it took a bloody age. I recently did them again the old fashioned way and got dirty but it was quicker.
Did you warm the engine first ? I can empty the sump in less than 10 mins on mine YankeePorker said:
If I talk about sump plugs with magnetic particle traps am I being a bit old school? Used to clean ferrous waste off the magnet on my old A series engine sump plug, certainly this is something that the vacuum pump can't help with.
I remember removing vast quantities of iron filings from the magnetic sump plug on my old mini, but that was all from the gearbox being in the sump. If your getting that amount of filings from the engine alone, whether the vacuum pump is removing that last drop of oil or a bit of sludge is the least of your worries. Gassing Station | Home Mechanics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff