RE: Last Bugatti Veyron sold

RE: Last Bugatti Veyron sold

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NRS

22,195 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Dave Hedgehog said:
I am sure Kegg will sell you a car that will at least match the vayron's top speed if you happen to have access to the 3 places on the planet its possible to do it, they certainly make cars that blitz them in a straight line, and probably wont cost 100k a year to service
The Bugatti is unlikely to do so, just it can result in one. Same as the 'Segg potentially, although they have less problems now compared to what they had previously.

clonmult said:
The McLaren is still a better looking car, and at least for my money, a way better engineered product. VW just wanted stupidly big numbers, and they got it. Gordon Murray wanted something lightweight, which is still the best way to make a car go fast. The Bug is fundamentally flawed and butt ugly. The McLaren less flawed, and has a considerably more timeless design (doesn't look anything like a dated as the bug).

And more importantly for me, the McLaren being a 3 seater means that I could have both of my sons in the car with me .... Gordon was thinking of divorced dreaming single dads with 2 sons all along ... wink
Actually weight has very litte to do with making making something go fast (beyond a certsin point). It comes down to power and aero instead. Plus the issue of tyres that are able to cope. Both are very interesting pieces of engineering work, just they approach it in different ways and at different times. The Bugatti has to deal with a lot more regulations these days that the McLaren didn't have to. I'd also say of many of the current cars the Bugatti is the one that will date the least, since there is very little styling on it (compared to the heavily sculpted hypercars). It's not what I would go for, but too many people parrot on about it being rubbish because it's heavy etc.

epom

11,549 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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I'd love a Zonda but they've stopped making them too haven't they ??

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Ugly as sin
Completely outclassed by the new generation of hybrid hypercars
Based on the Passat of the time with extensive part sharing

BUT... hard to think what other brand of car would have the same ring to it in this Tiga track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFg6amMLd-o



Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

152 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Whatever one may think about the car, I think it is great to have an engineer leading a big car company. Piech was / is responsible for a lot of great stuff that did not make any commercial sense -- but he had it done anyway. Big petrol head that man. Once he gives up power completely, it will likely shift even more to the bean counters. Not a good thing IMO.

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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405dogvan said:
DO you even want a second-hand status symbol - is that not missing the point of the thing?
That's a very astute observation, and would do well to be quoted in many of the threads on 'cheap' prestige cars (like Rollers, etc).

Mark-C

5,138 posts

206 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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jakesmith said:
Based on the Passat of the time with extensive part sharing
FFS rolleyes

turbo-ww

1,766 posts

217 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Another shot of the Green Carbon version.


Uncle John

4,300 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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jakesmith said:
Based on the Passat of the time with extensive part sharing
HA HA!

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Mark-C said:
FFS rolleyes
Definitely serious

turbo-ww

1,766 posts

217 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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A view not often seen. This monster is what's behind your ears...




RowntreesCabana

1,797 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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soad said:
Servicing cost is eye watering from what I recall? Tyres and wheels, at least.
No sh*te!

LotusOmega375D

7,639 posts

154 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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turbo-ww said:
A view not often seen. This monster is what's behind your ears...

turbo-ww: any better pictures of that blue one in the background? Looks awful wide.

The Badger

355 posts

177 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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gregf40 said:
My Nismo R35 GTR has the same 0-60 time. Never gets boring biggrin
Sir, I salute you!

Cracking choice.

Mark-C

5,138 posts

206 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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jakesmith said:
Mark-C said:
FFS rolleyes
Definitely serious
Go on then ... lets be charitable and put the word "extensive" down to hyperbole. Let's see a list of the parts the Veyron and an '05 (or whenever) Passat have in common. I'm sure there are a few hidden ones that it didn't make sense to create from scratch but I wage it's not many.

On a side note Mrs-C was very annoyed when I bought my Skoda and she discovered it had the same light switch as her Mk1 TT.

j90gta

563 posts

135 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Mark-C said:
jakesmith said:
Mark-C said:
FFS rolleyes
Definitely serious
Go on then ... lets be charitable and put the word "extensive" down to hyperbole. Let's see a list of the parts the Veyron and an '05 (or whenever) Passat have in common. I'm sure there are a few hidden ones that it didn't make sense to create from scratch but I wage it's not many.

On a side note Mrs-C was very annoyed when I bought my Skoda and she discovered it had the same light switch as her Mk1 TT.
Not just Audi's. My Skoda Superb had the same vanity mirrors/lights - vents - carpet lugs as my boss's Bentley Conti GT! Also all VW group keys are the same.

the_hood

771 posts

195 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Am amazing achievement that and a fantastic car.

turbo-ww

1,766 posts

217 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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LotusOmega375D said:
turbo-ww said:
A view not often seen. This monster is what's behind your ears...

turbo-ww: any better pictures of that blue one in the background? Looks awful wide.
How about this? I don't recall it being any wider.






Matt UK

17,727 posts

201 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Petrol supercars using power to overcome weight will eventually be looked back on as dinosaurs.

And I reckon the Bugatti Veyron will be hailed as the Tyrannosaurus rex.

The ultimate autobahn predator of it's time and will facinate for years after it's passing, but ultimately an evolutionary dead end.

J4CKO

41,628 posts

201 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Matt UK said:
Petrol supercars using power to overcome weight will eventually be looked back on as dinosaurs.

And I reckon the Bugatti Veyron will be hailed as the Tyrannosaurus rex.

The ultimate autobahn predator of it's time and will facinate for years after it's passing, but ultimately an evolutionary dead end.
A couple of years back I would have scoffed at that but having seen what a Tesla P85D can do, I am not so sure, its early days for electric cars, still a few things to overcome but the way they accelerate is unbelievable and I cant imagine there isn't more to give, the current crop seem to all be some kind of hybid but I reckon an all electric hypercar cant be that far off.


Dirty

59 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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The Badger said:
There's a ride at Alton Towers with the same 0-60. Feels quick.
Similar to the Tesla then smile