Do you 'engage' with cyclists?
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I want some opinions on a cyclist I beeped this morning.
I was waiting to turn right, had missed a chance at the last light cycle so was past the white lines, it's a b
d of a junction. The light goes green and I start going right, as I'm doing so a cyclist undertakes me to go right so I have to brake, busy road now, hard to overtake so I beep him, he then turns around to make eye contact and does that thing you see on YouTube where he goes really slow in the very centre of the lane to prove a point, he cut me up, sadly I'm not immature so passed him as I would any other cyclist rather than passing too close to prove a point.
Now, I'm curious, was I the knob or was the cyclist the knob or a bit of both? I'll admit I didn't do a left blindspot check but was checking mirrors before turning right, I was fully over the line so the cyclist must have actually gone over the line before the light went green to do this, didn't move in front of me, just sat in my blindspot.
I was waiting to turn right, had missed a chance at the last light cycle so was past the white lines, it's a b
d of a junction. The light goes green and I start going right, as I'm doing so a cyclist undertakes me to go right so I have to brake, busy road now, hard to overtake so I beep him, he then turns around to make eye contact and does that thing you see on YouTube where he goes really slow in the very centre of the lane to prove a point, he cut me up, sadly I'm not immature so passed him as I would any other cyclist rather than passing too close to prove a point. Now, I'm curious, was I the knob or was the cyclist the knob or a bit of both? I'll admit I didn't do a left blindspot check but was checking mirrors before turning right, I was fully over the line so the cyclist must have actually gone over the line before the light went green to do this, didn't move in front of me, just sat in my blindspot.
Edited by carlove on Wednesday 4th March 22:27
Devil2575 said:
I'm not talking about making cycle helmets mandatory. I accept that making them mandatory has been shown to put people off and so reduce overall public health.
I'm talking about the evidence that a helmet does no good if you fall off and hit your head on the ground.
Who has said they do no good? I'm simply asking why we don't weear them all the time, becuase of you hit your head on anything (such as tarmac, or anything hard) it hurts. Why don't you put a helmet on the moment you get up?I'm talking about the evidence that a helmet does no good if you fall off and hit your head on the ground.
Getting back to topic.
Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
JagXJR said:
Getting back to topic.
Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
Said the man who overtook someone who was already overtaking someone, anticipated that a scenario may develop that he was uncomfortable but pressed ahead anyway, and relied on his horn to somehow make it safe.Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
But hey, he's nearly an advanced motorist and he was there so if in his opinion it was safe then it must be safe, right?
I let cars behind me know, when I go around a cyclist on the road.
Many drivers do not let other drivers, know that there is a cyclist ahead.
Also cyclist just turn off road, no hand signals to let drivers know they are turning etc.
We all share the road, so help each other better roadcraft.
Many drivers do not let other drivers, know that there is a cyclist ahead.
Also cyclist just turn off road, no hand signals to let drivers know they are turning etc.
We all share the road, so help each other better roadcraft.
Edited by SEE YA on Thursday 5th March 07:35
Finlandia said:
To those saying a helmet does not protect your head, do a simple test, put a helmet on and headbutt a brick wall, then do the same without the helmet, which hurts more?
The only people making the kind of statements along the lines of 'helmets make no/very little difference, or indeed actually make public health worse', are the health care professionals at the sharp end, by simply pointing out that it is all but impossible to see where or how the helmets have made a difference in statistics over the years. The decline in injury rates had begun before helmets became a topic, but didn't accelerate once a big take-up of helmets began. The decline is also mirrored by pedestrian casualty rates, who of course don't wear helmets. And there is a lot of evidence that ordinary cyclists are safer than pedestrians, yet we require only the safer road user to wear a helmet. Young men are five times more likely to be killed in a car than on a bike - yet we want them to wear a helmet only on the safer vehicle.
Your statement abut head butting a brick wall - it's true, of course it is, so why on earth do we confine this discussion to cyclists - and please answer this question.
We all bang our heads on stuff from time to time, yet I've never banged my head when riding a bike. I don't cycle any more (it's just too horrible in the UK imo), but it cannot be said that therefore I will never have a head injury. Head injuries are common, so why aren't we wearing helmets all the time, and why do we think that only cyclists should wear them?
JagXJR said:
Getting back to topic.
Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
Maybe PH isn't the best website for you? :-) http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2...Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
JagXJR said:
Getting back to topic.
Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
I thought you'd already flounced twice princess xMost cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
JagXJR said:
Getting back to topic.
Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
What part of I've done discussing this are you not capable of understanding?Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
Words of one syllable or a foreign language help you perhaps?
JagXJR said:
JagXJR said:
Getting back to topic.
Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
What part of I've done discussing this are you not capable of understanding?Most cyclists are muppets. As demonstrated on this thread. You can't reason with them, they are arrogant, egotistical individuals and are always right.
So don't engage with them, you are wasting your time. As well as risking damage to your car.
Far better to vent on the Internet, then. Then you only have to endure the boring trolls, easier to deal with
Words of one syllable or a foreign language help you perhaps?
heebeegeetee said:
Devil2575 said:
I'm not talking about making cycle helmets mandatory. I accept that making them mandatory has been shown to put people off and so reduce overall public health.
I'm talking about the evidence that a helmet does no good if you fall off and hit your head on the ground.
Who has said they do no good? I'm talking about the evidence that a helmet does no good if you fall off and hit your head on the ground.
heebeegeetee said:
A helmet saves you from head injury? Does it? making the absolute statement that helmets saves you from head injury really is going too far!
JagXJR said:
That is really clever, argue with someone by telling them they are arguing with themselves?
You people just get better and better
Either you just quoted yourself and argued with yourself, or you are too stupid to realise that you attributed the quote of someone else to yourself.You people just get better and better
Either way, the small cycle-hating minority on PH do a great job of losing their own arguments and looking like the mouth-breathers they plainly are.
Finlandia said:
heebeegeetee said:
why on earth do we confine this discussion to cyclists - and please answer this question.
Liquid Knight said:
Cyclists, motor cyclists, horse riders, racing drivers, rally drivers......
...etc.
...etc.
I'll ask again, it's a reasonable question: What you say about headbutting walls is correct, so why don't you wear a helmet of some sort at all times to protect you from head injury? You say a helmet will either save you from all head injuries, or two-thirds of injuries, there is absolutely no hospital admissions evidence to support that, but leaving that aside, why don't you wear a helmet at all time to either protect you from all head injuries or the two thirds of injuries that you might have?
Mr Gear said:
JagXJR said:
That is really clever, argue with someone by telling them they are arguing with themselves?
You people just get better and better
Either you just quoted yourself and argued with yourself, or you are too stupid to realise that you attributed the quote of someone else to yourself.You people just get better and better
Either way, the small cycle-hating minority on PH do a great job of losing their own arguments and looking like the mouth-breathers they plainly are.
No, I quoted what I posted for the knuckle dragger's that are incapable (so it seems) of reading, for emphasis!
Really you cyclists are a brainless bunch! Hence why it is pointless engaging with them out on the road
Should probably stop mocking the afflicted now, I really shouldn't drag myself down to your level. The air down here is not great
JagXJR said:
Really you cyclists are a brainless bunch! Hence why it is pointless engaging with them out on the road
Has it occurred to you that you are on pistonheads? You aren't arguing with cyclists. You're arguing with driving enthusiasts, some of whom also ride a bike from time to time.heebeegeetee said:
Finlandia said:
heebeegeetee said:
why on earth do we confine this discussion to cyclists - and please answer this question.
Liquid Knight said:
Cyclists, motor cyclists, horse riders, racing drivers, rally drivers......
...etc.
...etc.
I'll ask again, it's a reasonable question: What you say about headbutting walls is correct, so why don't you wear a helmet of some sort at all times to protect you from head injury? You say a helmet will either save you from all head injuries, or two-thirds of injuries, there is absolutely no hospital admissions evidence to support that, but leaving that aside, why don't you wear a helmet at all time to either protect you from all head injuries or the two thirds of injuries that you might have?
When I play ice-hockey, I always wear a helmet, I wouldn't dream of going on the ice without a it. Now and then I go off-pist skiing, always wearing a helmet. When I go out on the motorbike, I always wear a helmet, not because it's the law but because it's the smart thing to do. When I was rallying I always had my helmet on.
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