RE: Subaru BRZ v Toyota GT86: Delivery Miles
Discussion
chrispmartha said:
And if you do really want a drivers car and have 15-20kcash to spend would you spend it on a GT6?
especially when you can get something like this
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
Depends on whether I wanted four seats; or a roof; or a warranty;...especially when you can get something like this
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
If I didn't want those things, I wouldn't buy a GT86 or a Boxster.
chrispmartha said:
And if you do really want a drivers car and have 15-20kcash to spend would you spend it on a GT6?
especially when you can get something like this
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
New:usedespecially when you can get something like this
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
Applesranges
chrispmartha said:
kambites said:
Depends on whether I wanted four seats; or a roof; or a warranty;...
If I didn't want those things, I wouldn't buy a GT86 or a Boxster.
Since when did a Cayman not have a roof?If I didn't want those things, I wouldn't buy a GT86 or a Boxster.
chrispmartha said:
Johnnytheboy said:
New:used
Applesranges
No, in this case my point is valid, the OP asked why aren't they selling, I'm providing one of the reasons why.Applesranges
Apples vs. Oranges
So you're saying Toyota should have manufactured 2nd hand Porsches instead?
kambites said:
Oops! For some reason I thought it was a Boxster.
Even if it was a Boxster I think my point would still stand, the GT6 is aimed at people who want a 'drivers car' and there are simply far too many better options for the money and as stated the finance deals are rubbish so don't make sense when there are more powerful 'more premium' options available new at a better price.Johnnytheboy said:
So you're saying Toyota should have manufactured 2nd hand Porsches instead?
No, he's saying that Toyota should have produced a new car which appeals to people who buy new cars; and those people don't actually buy cars at all, they rent them. The leasing rates appear to be ridiculous!chrispmartha said:
kambites said:
Oops! For some reason I thought it was a Boxster.
Even if it was a Boxster I think my point would still stand, the GT6 is aimed at people who want a 'drivers car' and there are simply far too many better options for the money and as stated the finance deals are rubbish so don't make sense when there are more powerful 'more premium' options available new at a better price.kambites said:
Johnnytheboy said:
So you're saying Toyota should have manufactured 2nd hand Porsches instead?
No, he's saying that Toyota should have produced a new car which appeals to people who buy new cars; and those people don't actually buy cars at all, they rent them. The leasing rates appear to be ridiculous!Though I agree with you on one point I suspect: I wonder how many people who thought the GT86 was going to be the best sports car ever actually had any intention of buying one new?
As someone above said, it seems like a car designed to appeal to the 2nd hand market a few years down the line.
Don't get me wrong: I quite like them, but I can see why the demographic that actually buys new cars doesn't.
Edited by Johnnytheboy on Thursday 26th February 10:01
Johnnytheboy said:
So you're saying Toyota should have manufactured 2nd hand Porsches instead?
Are being deliberately obtuse?I'm not saying anything other than trying to show a reason for them not selling.
What Toyota probably should have done is give it more power to be able to compete with the current crop of hot hatches and also come up with decent finance options.
kambites said:
Although I'd argue that if you're after a driver's car there are far better options than the Boxster or Cayman
Quite possibly, I was just picking an obvious example, plus since getting rid of my Cayman and really wanting another I quite like searching on Autotrader for them ;-)chrispmartha said:
kambites said:
Although I'd argue that if you're after a driver's car there are far better options than the Boxster or Cayman
Quite possibly, I was just picking an obvious example, plus since getting rid of my Cayman and really wanting another I quite like searching on Autotrader for them ;-)chrispmartha said:
Johnnytheboy said:
So you're saying Toyota should have manufactured 2nd hand Porsches instead?
Are being deliberately obtuse?I'm not saying anything other than trying to show a reason for them not selling.
What Toyota probably should have done is give it more power to be able to compete with the current crop of hot hatches and also come up with decent finance options.
I agree with you entirely on your last point. Or more accurately I think that they should have considered two power options: the existing model for the "purists" and a turbo model for everyone else.
chrispmartha said:
kambites said:
As far as I can see, the only reason to consider a GT86 is if you need the back seats or intend to heavily modify it.
if I needed more than 2 seats I'd choose a leased M135i or Golf R over theToyota everyday of the week.Johnnytheboy said:
In which case there were probably better ways of showing that than linking to an advert for used cars.
Not really, the car I linked to was for a start cheaper than a new GT6 and again because the finance deals are so poor on the Toyota I can't imagine anyone actually paying £20k+ cash on one of these when there are better alternatives available (new or used) the people that they seem to be aiming these at I would imagine be looking at what they can get for the same money second hand - that was my point!Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff