RE: Subaru BRZ v Toyota GT86: Delivery Miles

[JB!]

LordGrover said:

Why not?
I recommend using the half-wit ****tards I bought mine from - I'll never be needing them again.

Because I'd be pissed if someone wanted a car for a weekend test drive, then never placed an order, but went out and bought one private...

Chances are it will never see the dealer network in my ownership, except for buying service parts and warranty work.

[bennyboysvuk]

RobM77 said:

bennyboysvuk said:

So how do the GT86/BRZ compare? I would expect with the little power that it has, in the dry it would require a clutch kick to get it sliding or at least a harsh turn in, off the throttle?

That shouldn't be necessary in any car. You can drift a Yaris if you want; you just need to drive it on the limit with a bias in the balance towards oversteer. Look at the standard Elise for example - nowhere near enough power and way too much rear grip to break traction with power in the dry, but you can drift them all day long around a race track.

I wouldn't say that. My automatic E91 330i Touring just wouldn't really do oversteer in the dry in standard form. It's got a softer rear ARB than the saloon, which I'm sure messed up the handling. Honestly Rob, I tried every trick in the book and all I got was the smallest amount of lift-off oversteer. T'was a very disappointing car.

Anyhow, sometimes the speed isn't there to put the chassis in a position to enjoy a little slide, so you need alternative methods to get a car sliding and usually only brutal power or a clutch kick will do.

Robert/Alex. Two fairly different views there. I'm inclined to think Alex is right on this though. The wet weather stuff sounds fantastic though.