Letting the tank run low......

Letting the tank run low......

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Kentish

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15,169 posts

234 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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The other half (bless her) likes to let her car run on fumes before filling up.

I got in it this morning to take the kids to nursery and it was empty and would not pull & kept hesitating making it difficult to get up speed to join a D/C.

I filled up ASAP but the car was no different, even after a few miles & bursts of full throttle.

I bought some Diesel Magic (2 bottles) and added to the full tank and swished the fuel around to mix it by steer left and right in quick movements (like an F1 driveer warming up tyres) and after a run of about 20 miles the fault cleared luckily!

That could have been one expensive mistake letting the tank get that low.

What are your re-fuelling habits like?

Personally, I never get much below a 1/4 of a tank before filling back up to at least 3/4 full again.

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Drive until light comes on, fill up to brim.

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Kentish said:
Personally, I never get much below a 1/4 of a tank before filling back up to at least 3/4 full again.
Same as you. When it gets to about a quarter of a tank, will look to fill her up again, or sooner if convenient.

B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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TurboHatchback said:
Drive until light comes on, fill up to brim.
That (sometime I drive for a few miles with the light till I get to a garage)

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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So what was the fault code?

It could be completely un-related. Years ago I had an engine warning light come on because of a fueling issue, which would clear after 10 miles or so of running - assuming the system got up to operating temperature.

You may even find the code is still present, so it's worth plugging it in to see what the fault was.

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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I often let mine drop to the point where the needle is on the stop; I've quite often got 35 litres into my 32 litre tank. biggrin

Running out of fuel doesn't hurt an indirect injection engine, though. I wouldn't let the OH's DI car get that low.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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I usually try to fill to the brim unless Shell have some sort of extra points promotion to get me into the shop more often. I usually try to fill up when it drops to 1/8 of a tank, or at any time if I'm off on a long journey.

_Deano

7,406 posts

253 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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At the moment with the XFR, i will try and keep it topped up. As soon as it hits the 3/4 of a tank, i will pop another 1/4 in to full.
The car is very thirsty and if i needed to drive somewhere suddenly and quickly, i wouldn't want to either run it on fumes or have to stop to refill. With a full tank, it will only achieve circa 250miles.

The bikes however will be ridden until the warning lamp is on, but these are for commuting and there are many petrol stations along the route.

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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never gets above half full and often gets close to zero.

Playing petrol station roulette in my 335i


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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Kentish said:
I filled up ASAP but the car was no different, even after a few miles & bursts of full throttle.

I bought some Diesel Magic (2 bottles) and added to the full tank and swished the fuel around to mix it by steer left and right in quick movements (like an F1 driveer warming up tyres) and after a run of about 20 miles the fault cleared luckily!

That could have been one expensive mistake letting the tank get that low.
Ah, the old "It'll pick all the muck up off the bottom of the tank" urban myth.

The pickup in the tank is ALWAYS at the same point, near the bottom. It doesn't float on the top.

Running low CAN cause foaming, because of the constant circulation of fuel, and that can cause pump cavitation, and potentially a low pressure fault code, but that's about it.

A bottle of extra-virgin cold-pressed extract of python will make no difference to anything except for a weight saving in your wallet.

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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_Deano said:
At the moment with the XFR, i will try and keep it topped up. As soon as it hits the 3/4 of a tank, i will pop another 1/4 in to full.
The car is very thirsty and if i needed to drive somewhere suddenly and quickly, i wouldn't want to either run it on fumes or have to stop to refill. With a full tank, it will only achieve circa 250miles.

The bikes however will be ridden until the warning lamp is on, but these are for commuting and there are many petrol stations along the route.
So you go to the petrol station every 62 miles? That must be about once every 1-2hrs of driving, you'll be needing all 500bhp to make up all that time again! I had a car that could only do 220-250 miles on a tank and it got annoying fairly quickly even brimming it from empty every time.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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The issues you describe were probably unrelated , more likely she just does non stop short journeys round town and you just gave it an Italian tune up

Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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_Deano said:
At the moment with the XFR, i will try and keep it topped up. As soon as it hits the 3/4 of a tank, i will pop another 1/4 in to full.
The car is very thirsty and if i needed to drive somewhere suddenly and quickly, i wouldn't want to either run it on fumes or have to stop to refill. With a full tank, it will only achieve circa 250miles.

The bikes however will be ridden until the warning lamp is on, but these are for commuting and there are many petrol stations along the route.
You're bound to get 200 miles from 3/4 a tank. In what scenario are you planning on suddenly having to do 200 miles without any notice at top speed with no time to stop confusedconfusedconfused

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Kentish

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15,169 posts

234 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Seems a bit of a huge coincidence for it to not be related to running extremely low.

It's never done it before.

Maybe it would have just cleared again after a few more miles on new fuel but I know that injectors do block over time.

I used to work for Lucas Service, we used the same cleaner I used today on some cars. Some responded to this well others didn't and needed injector clean and refurb off the car.

Incidentally, it was the only cleaner they had with a warning of being fatal if swallowed and loads of other safety info on the label. Probably not quite the snake oil that others are with a warning that it "might" cause some irritation to skin.


_Deano

7,406 posts

253 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Sump said:
You're bound to get 200 miles from 3/4 a tank. In what scenario are you planning on suddenly having to do 200 miles without any notice at top speed with no time to stop confusedconfusedconfused
lol, no idea. Zombie invasion? smile

Thankfully i don't drive it every day, so it doesn't need filling all the time. I will probably commute with it a couple of days a week, when i'm feeling a bit girly and it's too cold to ride the bike. But after a couple of trips it will be topped up.


ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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I used to refill mine when it got to 350 miles as the gauge didn't work.

This worked brilliantly until one day when I'd forgotten that the pay at pump hadn't let me brim it the previous time.

jdw100

4,113 posts

164 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Personally, I never let the car get below a quarter of a tank.

What if you had to get up in night and make an emergency dash to hospital or for another reason where stopping to top up might be time you could not afford?

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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jdw100 said:
What if you had to get up in night and make an emergency dash to hospital or for another reason where stopping to top up might be time you could not afford?
If I was in that situation, I'd call an ambulance regardless of how much petrol I had.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

148 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Kentish said:
The other half (bless her) likes to let her car run on fumes before filling up.

I got in it this morning to take the kids to nursery and it was empty and would not pull & kept hesitating making it difficult to get up speed to join a D/C.

I filled up ASAP but the car was no different, even after a few miles & bursts of full throttle.

I bought some Diesel Magic (2 bottles) and added to the full tank and swished the fuel around to mix it by steer left and right in quick movements (like an F1 driveer warming up tyres) and after a run of about 20 miles the fault cleared luckily!

That could have been one expensive mistake letting the tank get that low.

What are your re-fuelling habits like?

Personally, I never get much below a 1/4 of a tank before filling back up to at least 3/4 full again.
Unlikely to be fuel level related. In my experience diesels usually stop dead rather than play up when fuel is low.