Which "hyperhatch" would you most like to own?

[MRobbins1987]

I would have the Honda if it had to be one of the three... M135 or Fiesta ST if I wanted to have fun...

[Tickle]

white_goodman said:

To be fair, with my hypothetical 30-40k neither would I (probably several cheaper cars for different purposes). However, as a one car to do it all type prospect, one of these cars would be quite appealing. Out of interest, what would others call a hatchback with over 300bhp? Maybe, I should have gone to "superhatch" before going to "hyperhatch" but that's a bit close to "supermini" (a generally accepted term for a Fiesta-sized shopping car). Back in the day, I don't seem to remember cars like the Escort RS Cosworth and Lancia Delta Integrale being classed as hot hatches (a hot hatch was something like a 205 or Golf GTi).

Does this 'HyperHatch' term only apply to BHP irrespective of performance? I'm still confused on this new fantastic category of cars.

[Crafty_]

The civic isn't confirmed to be > 300hp, so if its in, so should the golf & S3. A45 should be in as it is more powerful than the focus and civic IIRC.

Whats sad is that all the cars pictured are 5 door, imho hot hatches should be 3 door.

Focus & Civic are ugly, RS3 is, well, a bit Audi.

Ferrari wins!

[Zoobeef]

Coldfuse said:

Zoobeef said:

Are they bringing out a fiesta RS? That should be interesting if so.

Would that not compete with the Focus ST?

Apparently it is coming but a few years yet.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/siz...

[TimS2000]

Out of those it would be the RS3, mainly because it will by far and away have the best sounding engine

[white_goodman]

I'm not particularly a fan of the term "hyper" (hence the "") but at the same time, I can't see how a Suzuki Swift Sport with (125bhp?) can be compared to a c.370 bhp Audi RS3. It's stupid to say that a car with 299bhp is a hot hatch and a car with 300bhp is a "hyper" hatch but what other criteria could you use? Price? I don't think that anyone would disagree that a Focus ST is a hot hatch but the Focus RS is quite a different proposition in terms of power, price and traction. The hottest Leons/Meganes are sailing close to 300bhp but not such a big step up compared to their lesser brethren, so still hot hatches in my opinion. I merely used the term to identify the type of car (latest breed of fast hatch) that I was talking about, rather than to spark a debate about a definition and whether it exists or not!

[kingofdbrits]

Crafty_ said:

Whats sad is that all the cars pictured are 5 door, imho hot hatches should be 3 door.

What if you have children? Or friends? One thing that really wound me up when I got a Type R back in 2004 was everytime someone got in the back the seat reset it's self, plus the longer doors are a pita when trying to get out in a car park.

[Eighteeteewhy]

[briang9]

TheJimi said:

If I was spending "hyperhatch" money, I wouldn't be buying a "hyperhatch".

Indeed this leaves plenty change for a pretty good night of hookers, drugs and booze

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

Edited by briang9 on Friday 27th February 20:51

[Steve vRS]

Zoobeef said:

Coldfuse said:

Zoobeef said:

Are they bringing out a fiesta RS? That should be interesting if so.

Would that not compete with the Focus ST?

Apparently it is coming but a few years yet.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/siz...

An AutoExpress link.

So that means the Fiesta RS will be released just after the next Capri or Puma....

Steve

[Crafty_]

kingofdbrits said:

Crafty_ said:

Whats sad is that all the cars pictured are 5 door, imho hot hatches should be 3 door.

What if you have children? Or friends? One thing that really wound me up when I got a Type R back in 2004 was everytime someone got in the back the seat reset it's self, plus the longer doors are a pita when trying to get out in a car park.

Just slide the seat before flipping it back.

I cant think of a hot hatch that looks better as a 5 door.

[WhiteAMG45]

I have had my AMG A45 for just over a month I am very pleased with it.
I am glad I bought it but I do not like the term hyper hatch.
why I went for the AMG because it is a great package and you do not have to drive it like you stole it all time because you know what it can deliver.
It is quite understated the only time it stands out if you hit the loud pedal then it sounds great.

[bertie]

I love my M135i, drove a few different things but the BMW was the only one with a nice engine.

[Mound Dawg]

DUMBO100 said:

I've gone for a bit more practicality with the Golf ordering both 5 doors and DSG. I like the peace of mind with a new car and warranty and the recent lease deal sealed the deal.

You rebel!

Pistonhead of the year, right there...

[Toltec]

Hmmm...

Litchfield BRZ Spec S






What do you mean it doesn't have a hatch?

Who cares, it looks like it should anyway.

Edited by Toltec on Friday 27th February 22:39

[DUMBO100]

Mound Dawg said:

You rebel!

Pistonhead of the year, right there...

Haha thanks for taking the quote out of context. The R is my daily driver so I'd like it to be reliable. There will be a rwd V8 joining it too

[Axionknight]

Of the original list I'd be looking a the Honda or Ford, despite the lack of details, the VAG cars just don't excite me, at all, maybe on launch the Ford and Honda will be similarly boring and middle of the road - but I seriously doubt it.

Eighteeteewhy said:

Cracking little motor, no doubt about it, IMO.

Edited by Axionknight on Friday 27th February 23:16

[DanielSan]

Eighteeteewhy said:

Beaten the Fiesta ST in a head to head in Evo this month aswell. I'd really like one, even in that colour scheme.

[J4CKO]

I remember when 120 bhp did the trick.

[grkify]

Not road legal and £120000 but its on sale to the public and based on a hot hatch megane v6



Or this not got 300hp but awesome little car seen one in the flesh looks awesome megane trophy r