Horrendous roadside litter - worse than ever before?
Discussion
Sir Bagalot said:
McDonalds leased the Little Chef site on the A31 on the edge of the New Forest. Huge permission issues as there are reports out there that clearly state that when a new McDonalds opens then it also creates a major litter problems within a three mile radius.
I live just down the road from this McDonalds and EVERY morning, i see a staff member walking 2 to 3 miles and back on the main road to Burley from the location litter picking, so i believe this particular area has been addressed.In fact, it was only just this week that i passed him, and it was pissing it down.
Poor fecker
Sir Bagalot said:
Some points
H&S: I've seen crews litter picking on dual carriageways. 3 vehicles at stages distances to warn drivers. Two people litter picking. So that's 3 vehicles, min of 5 people, what's the cost of that?
Our local tip is now closed Thursdays and Fridays. Why?
Sometimes councils make it difficult. Someone I know had asbestos garage rood sheets. Licensed firms wanted £1,100 to remove and take away. Nearest council tip wouldn't accept it, council tip 40 odd miles away would but he had to pay £200 odd. He just went for a drive one evening.
Not thinking people just toss from window.
McDonalds leased the Little Chef site on the A31 on the edge of the New Forest. Huge permission issues as there are reports out there that clearly state that when a new McDonalds opens then it also creates a major litter problems within a three mile radius.
I don't know what the solution is but the government do need to find one.
The council probably close the tip to save money , given the cuts our beloved coalition have made to budgets. It is irritating to find a tip closed but absolutely does not make fly tipping ok of course. I don't really see it as only a government problem- everybody should make a point never of dropping it , picking up litter (as we do in our parish ) and , as our friend above did, report those twonks who are seen to do it. The last lot we had here was the debris from a cannabis farm- a full van load . Local council cleared it up within a day or our reporting it . H&S: I've seen crews litter picking on dual carriageways. 3 vehicles at stages distances to warn drivers. Two people litter picking. So that's 3 vehicles, min of 5 people, what's the cost of that?
Our local tip is now closed Thursdays and Fridays. Why?
Sometimes councils make it difficult. Someone I know had asbestos garage rood sheets. Licensed firms wanted £1,100 to remove and take away. Nearest council tip wouldn't accept it, council tip 40 odd miles away would but he had to pay £200 odd. He just went for a drive one evening.
Not thinking people just toss from window.
McDonalds leased the Little Chef site on the A31 on the edge of the New Forest. Huge permission issues as there are reports out there that clearly state that when a new McDonalds opens then it also creates a major litter problems within a three mile radius.
I don't know what the solution is but the government do need to find one.
Alucidnation said:
I live just down the road from this McDonalds and EVERY morning, i see a staff member walking 2 to 3 miles and back on the main road to Burley from the location litter picking, so i believe this particular area has been addressed.
In fact, it was only just this week that i passed him, and it was pissing it down.
Poor fecker
mcdonalds seem to be one of the very few sociably responsible companies out there, In fact, it was only just this week that i passed him, and it was pissing it down.
Poor fecker
their litter patrols seem to cover a fair radius around their stores picking up not only their own rubbish but anything else they come across it seems.
Littering hasn't changed, but the "picking it up" has. The contractor for a large part of our particular piece of motorway network in the NW, had their budget cut to 1/6th of what it had been prior to this governments the austerity measures, that why littler picking / drain clearing / grass cutting / tree pruning / pothole repairs (as opposed to a few buckets of cold-fill) etc. etc. are no longer getting done, there isn't the money or the people to do it.
glasgowrob said:
mcdonalds seem to be one of the very few sociably responsible companies out there,
their litter patrols seem to cover a fair radius around their stores picking up not only their own rubbish but anything else they come across it seems.
Sadly its down to them as people are too damn lazy to do it themselves!their litter patrols seem to cover a fair radius around their stores picking up not only their own rubbish but anything else they come across it seems.
At the moment there is no way to trace a bag of McCrap back to the thrower.I wonder how much it would cost to have ANPR at the drive-thru and print a Reg.No. on each receipt,perhaps in an encoded format,so if a bag is found the car can be traced.
kowalski655 said:
At the moment there is no way to trace a bag of McCrap back to the thrower.I wonder how much it would cost to have ANPR at the drive-thru and print a Reg.No. on each receipt,perhaps in an encoded format,so if a bag is found the car can be traced.
Strathclyde police tried this with buckfast bottles. They wanted each bottled marked with the shop that sold it, so they could trace it in the event it was involved with underage drinking or crime.I believe the shops and buckfast producers challenged this procedure and won.
Some years ago, the local council would pick up excess household rubbish for free in the afternoons. I used to take my dog for a nice walk 3 times a day in the local small woods. Then the council decided it would end the free rubbish pick up, and charge £25 for the service. I used to take my dog for a walk through a rubbish tip 3 times a day then. Well, for a while, but when it became hazardous because of the rubbish she'd pick up, and the broken bottles that cut her feet, we now go across the fields instead. Twice a year, the council send a team of 2 JCB's, 1 rubbish truck, and an associated team of about a dozen workers to remove it all. So they save bugger all money in the end.
The local authority shut a section of the A13 recently to pick up huge amounts of litter. which I suspect caused inconvenience for some drivers, but whether many of those who chucked the litter out of their vehicles, were amongst those inconvenienced would be a question, and even if they were, it would not be likely to affect the type of person who routinely throws litter.
I was in a McDonalds on the A13 some years ago and watched a bloke in a Corsa just chucked the remnants of his dinner, and cartons / wrappers of the substantial meal he had bought there out of the drivers window onto the car park floor, despite there being a waste bin no more than 1 metre from his door.
It is illegal to chuck anything out of a plane, it should also be illegal to chuck `anything' from a vehicle (although how people doing this might be caught and prosecuted would be a big question) Perhaps if drivers caught doing this had their vehicle confiscated for a lengthy period (or even crushed) with high profile media coverage of their act, used to warn others against doing this.
A particular and potentially dangerous nuisance is when lighted dog ends are chucked in the face of following motorcycle riders, which I have seen on a number of occasions.
The main problem could be the scum that do this don't even recognise that what they are doing is wrong, their own homes could be permanent stinking pig sty`s, because that is the way they live.
I was in a McDonalds on the A13 some years ago and watched a bloke in a Corsa just chucked the remnants of his dinner, and cartons / wrappers of the substantial meal he had bought there out of the drivers window onto the car park floor, despite there being a waste bin no more than 1 metre from his door.
It is illegal to chuck anything out of a plane, it should also be illegal to chuck `anything' from a vehicle (although how people doing this might be caught and prosecuted would be a big question) Perhaps if drivers caught doing this had their vehicle confiscated for a lengthy period (or even crushed) with high profile media coverage of their act, used to warn others against doing this.
A particular and potentially dangerous nuisance is when lighted dog ends are chucked in the face of following motorcycle riders, which I have seen on a number of occasions.
The main problem could be the scum that do this don't even recognise that what they are doing is wrong, their own homes could be permanent stinking pig sty`s, because that is the way they live.
kowalski655 said:
glasgowrob said:
mcdonalds seem to be one of the very few sociably responsible companies out there,
their litter patrols seem to cover a fair radius around their stores picking up not only their own rubbish but anything else they come across it seems.
Sadly its down to them as people are too damn lazy to do it themselves!their litter patrols seem to cover a fair radius around their stores picking up not only their own rubbish but anything else they come across it seems.
At the moment there is no way to trace a bag of McCrap back to the thrower.I wonder how much it would cost to have ANPR at the drive-thru and print a Reg.No. on each receipt,perhaps in an encoded format,so if a bag is found the car can be traced.
Whilst litter control is a part of every local authorities duties, some might struggle to find the resources needed to carry it out, But even this should not be a problem if the scum who do throw litter are somehow made to stop doing it in the first place. Then local authorities would not have to waste thousands of pound of taxpayers money on clearing up stuff that should never be there in the first place.
I recall not so long ago being parked in my truck in Ower services (M27/A36 junction) I watched a car pull in with 3-4 lads in it, they drove into the McDonalds drive through, ordered there food, pulled away from the kiosk, drove round and into the lorry park, parked, (another pet hate of mine is people parking cars in the lorry park) ate the food and then just wound the window down, chucked all the rubbish on the ground and drove off...... I kid you not there were THREE large skips less than three foot steps away.
Seriously, whats the point, how lazy can you get? ......why go through a drive through, then eat the food in your car a few yards away, sit in the bloody restaurant! Then why chuck the litter on the floor, the bin was that close they could probably with a good aim have thrown it in there from the car, but no, it went on the floor.
Was tempted to pick it up and throw it back in the car, but 3-4 of them and 1 of me, the potential for them getting violent was to great for my liking.
Seriously, whats the point, how lazy can you get? ......why go through a drive through, then eat the food in your car a few yards away, sit in the bloody restaurant! Then why chuck the litter on the floor, the bin was that close they could probably with a good aim have thrown it in there from the car, but no, it went on the floor.
Was tempted to pick it up and throw it back in the car, but 3-4 of them and 1 of me, the potential for them getting violent was to great for my liking.
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