Leasing Advice/Questions/Tips

Leasing Advice/Questions/Tips

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TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I get asked all sorts of questions about leasing pros and cons plus what to do if....
So, to be helpful I thought I would start a thread where you can ask specific questions for me to answer and also where I can post helpful tips.

The first of which is this....

What if your lease car is about to go back, you're on a non-maintained contract, and your tyres are too low on tread?
Don't put new tyres on, go to your local part worn tyre provider and get them to put branded tyres on with 4mm tread left (most won't supply less than 4mm), or buy online and get local garage to fit. You just saved at least £40/tyre.

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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If your thinking about getting a lease with maintenance check if they offer it without tyres, this can be more cost effective, especially if you are more conservative in your driving style.

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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If you are dealing with a broker, ensure they are FCA authorised so you know you are dealing with a bona fide broker.

Also look out for done of the sharp practices they use which include:

Telling you you have been declined funding, then calling you back 10 mins later another funder has accepted you but the rate is more. Be especially wary if you think your credit is fine.

If you get as deal that is too good to be true, be careful just before delivery you don't get told the price has gone up so you are ransomed to a higher price as you can't get a car elsewhere. I've seen this a handful of times times when we have been beaten on price then Cust comes back saying the price has changed, thankfully we have the contacts to save the day and sort cars quickly, usually cheaper than the newly inflated price!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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TheBroker said:
I get asked all sorts of questions about leasing pros and cons plus what to do if....
So, to be helpful I thought I would start a thread where you can ask specific questions for me to answer and also where I can post helpful tips.

The first of which is this....

What if your lease car is about to go back, you're on a non-maintained contract, and your tyres are too low on tread?
Don't put new tyres on, go to your local part worn tyre provider and get them to put branded tyres on with 4mm tread left (most won't supply less than 4mm), or buy online and get local garage to fit. You just saved at least £40/tyre.
Not being funny but isn't this just a plug for your business?

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I'm sure anyone coming here will benefit from free impartial useful advice!
I'm not mentioning the business I run, rather by stating I'm a broker qualifying I know what I'm talking about so people know I'm not spouting unsubstantiated rubbish

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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When choosing a leasing company, make sure their website has professionally edited photos and not just stock photos that have been stretched out of ratio ?

tongue out

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Indeed which is why it's being re-written and will be up end march with new branding etc

Vaud

50,503 posts

155 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Not being funny but isn't this just a plug for your business?
If you follow the other lease thread, he got bashed for offering generic advice and some posters who have a 2CV fetish suggested he set up his own thread.

Like the car salesman thread which got heavily derailed, I think it is fine to have a Brokers thread providing the Brokers don't directly advertise a deal in the thread, and that the advice remains general to the industry.

His opening posts stick to that.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Vaud said:
St John Smythe said:
Not being funny but isn't this just a plug for your business?
If you follow the other lease thread, he got bashed for offering generic advice and some posters who have a 2CV fetish suggested he set up his own thread.

Like the car salesman thread which got heavily derailed, I think it is fine to have a Brokers thread providing the Brokers don't directly advertise a deal in the thread, and that the advice remains general to the industry.

His opening posts stick to that.
Amazeballs.

jjr1

3,023 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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TheBroker said:
I get asked all sorts of questions about leasing pros and cons plus what to do if....
So, to be helpful I thought I would start a thread where you can ask specific questions for me to answer and also where I can post helpful tips.

The first of which is this....

What if your lease car is about to go back, you're on a non-maintained contract, and your tyres are too low on tread?
Don't put new tyres on, go to your local part worn tyre provider and get them to put branded tyres on with 4mm tread left (most won't supply less than 4mm), or buy online and get local garage to fit. You just saved at least £40/tyre.
Is it in the small print that the tyres have to have 4mm? Sounds like a cunning swizz !!!

Vaud

50,503 posts

155 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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jjr1 said:
Is it in the small print that the tyres have to have 4mm? Sounds like a cunning swizz !!!
They have to be as defined in the contract. If your tyres are say approaching legal limits, I think his point is that the cheapest way to get legal tyres on the car is part worns, which will give yo at least 4mm?

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Technically you can get away with 2mm but most reputable part worn suppliers won't provide anything less than 4mm

jjr1

3,023 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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So does a lease require 4mm?

As far as I am aware they need to be road legal?

If so your 4mm requirement sounds bks.

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Who said the lease min was 4mm, I've merely said most reputable part worn suppliers won't sell anything under 4mm.

You can hand back with 2mm without penalty

jjr1

3,023 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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So you mean the legal limit? Not 2mm nor 4mm or any other random number?

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Bvrla fair wear and tear guidelines state legal limit so 1.6mm
I state 2mm as .4mm is a nominal difference and 2mm is easier to measure

rongagin

481 posts

136 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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I can understand a certain amount of scepticism toward the OP, but give the guy a chance eh?
If he can answer questions which apparently are not allowed to be asked in the giant 'best lease deals' thread, according to some, then where is the problem.

If along the way he gets some business, then so what? He is not advertising. A bit like a joiner who has his own business giving advice in the Home and Gardens area I think. Or some of the car dealers who give their opinion and advice freely and again if they get business, good.


timetex

644 posts

148 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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So here's a series of questions... smile

I get a monthly 'car allowance' from my employer, and am also paid 45ppm / 20ppm, but don't actually (at the moment) do a lot of business miles per annum.

I currently own my car outright, so if it were sold it would free up more than enough to put down the deposit on a lease or PCP deal, plus some extra readies as well (despite age and mileage!)

I probably do about 10-12k miles per year (previously a lot more, current car is 4 years old with 87k on it!)

I am hankering after changing my car at some point, but only for a deal that makes sense.

New car would probably be another premium fast estate (E / C Class Merc, Audi RS etc.)

So the questions are:

- given the above (mileage paid, car allowance paid) can I opt for the 'business' leases (not bothered about saving VAT - just taking advantage of the lower rates)
- any strong deals on at the moment?

I don't know if my car will depreciate at such a rapid rate (in fact it strengthened by well over 10% according to WBAC between Jan and Feb (!) so don't know when the best time to get shot of it is.

Decisions decisions!

TheBroker

Original Poster:

90 posts

110 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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timetex said:
So here's a series of questions... smile

I get a monthly 'car allowance' from my employer, and am also paid 45ppm / 20ppm, but don't actually (at the moment) do a lot of business miles per annum.

I currently own my car outright, so if it were sold it would free up more than enough to put down the deposit on a lease or PCP deal, plus some extra readies as well (despite age and mileage!)

I probably do about 10-12k miles per year (previously a lot more, current car is 4 years old with 87k on it!)

I am hankering after changing my car at some point, but only for a deal that makes sense.

New car would probably be another premium fast estate (E / C Class Merc, Audi RS etc.)

So the questions are:

- given the above (mileage paid, car allowance paid) can I opt for the 'business' leases (not bothered about saving VAT - just taking advantage of the lower rates)
- any strong deals on at the moment?

I don't know if my car will depreciate at such a rapid rate (in fact it strengthened by well over 10% according to WBAC between Jan and Feb (!) so don't know when the best time to get shot of it is.

Decisions decisions!
Ok so, do you have a choice of company car or car allowance?
If you have a choice then you need to consider the BIK for one of the super estates and they will be quite heavy on personal tax.
However, most employers don't pay enough in car allowance (typically around £400/month) to cover a super estate either, so something like an RS is not likely unless you are willing to pay extra.

There are some strong deals on things like the E-Class, but not the super fast ones. However, if you would consider an E350 Diesel then you may be able to meet your need for speed whilst keeping costs down a bit, the Audi 3.0BiTDI is also pretty quick. Also consider the XF Sportbrake.

If you do get a company car, on the mileage you are doing, don't take with personal miles included as you will end up worse off.
With regards to your car, as the weather improves people feel happier and start looking to buy cars which is why you will see a slight appreciation in price. This is far more evident in convertibles. Sell in early summer, buy in darkest winter.

If you want any pricing drop me a pm.


timetex

644 posts

148 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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No there's no choice for a car - just the allowance. I just wondered if being in receipt of an allowance, plus being paid per mile for businesss travel, I could opt for a business lease.

I know an M5 (although there's no Touring model), E63 or RS6 is going to be above my allowance but that's OK.

I wouldn't take an uber barge as a 'company car' anyway - always the allowance would be better.

I do want to stay in something like an AMG, M or RS (currently in an RS6 Avant) - I wouldn't want to change for a fast diesel.

Do I qualify for a 'business lease'?