RE: Kahn 'Flying Huntsman' announced
Discussion
TooMany2cvs said:
100SRV said:
Is the centre axle presently fitted for Geneva show the one being considered for a patent application?
Maybe not.
Enough said...
So it isn't 6x6, as displayed at Geneva, then...?Maybe not.
Enough said...
Rogue86 said:
Beefmeister said:
I should add, they rather hurriedly came over and shut the bonnet after they saw me taking a pic. Maybe I shouldn't have opened the bonnet.... 
I should probably also add that its complete manure, given the bonnet has been open all day.Edited by Beefmeister on Wednesday 4th March 13:39
Beefmeister said:
Oh I'm terribly sorry, were you standing right next to me all day? I was standing there, lifted the bonnet, took the picture and a large chap in a black suit came over and shut the bonnet giving me a dirty look. I don't much stand for people accusing me of lying, so kindly shove it up your arse.
Bit sensitive are we? Or embarassed to be caught out? Prof Prolapse said:
robemcdonald said:
How do you know how much hard work or engineering is put into the "tat" Kahn design puts on to cars?
You do of course know that the original landrover was designed in a matter of months. This conversion has probably taken longer to engineer than the original prototype.
Im not a fan of Kahn or their products, but do know they dont deserve to have the piss taken out of them. They are out there doing what they want and making money from it. All power to them.
Because I have eyes and a basic grasp of engineering. Just look at the picture above of the engine bay for example.You do of course know that the original landrover was designed in a matter of months. This conversion has probably taken longer to engineer than the original prototype.
Im not a fan of Kahn or their products, but do know they dont deserve to have the piss taken out of them. They are out there doing what they want and making money from it. All power to them.
I'm struggling to see how production methods in 1948 of a different vehicle are relevant, even then I sincerely doubt it took less effort than reproducing what others have already done. This is nothing new as is repeatedly shown on this thread.
"Doing what they want and making money from it"? That's all it takes to deserve respect beyond criticism is it? Just like the cast of 'Jersey shore', or 'Made in Chelsea' then. They provide entertainment to masses, they must therefore be artists and fantastic entertainers. All power to them.
As someone else mentioned a better comparison is something like crocs.
robemcdonald said:
Prof Prolapse said:
robemcdonald said:
How do you know how much hard work or engineering is put into the "tat" Kahn design puts on to cars?
You do of course know that the original landrover was designed in a matter of months. This conversion has probably taken longer to engineer than the original prototype.
Im not a fan of Kahn or their products, but do know they dont deserve to have the piss taken out of them. They are out there doing what they want and making money from it. All power to them.
Because I have eyes and a basic grasp of engineering. Just look at the picture above of the engine bay for example.You do of course know that the original landrover was designed in a matter of months. This conversion has probably taken longer to engineer than the original prototype.
Im not a fan of Kahn or their products, but do know they dont deserve to have the piss taken out of them. They are out there doing what they want and making money from it. All power to them.
I'm struggling to see how production methods in 1948 of a different vehicle are relevant, even then I sincerely doubt it took less effort than reproducing what others have already done. This is nothing new as is repeatedly shown on this thread.
"Doing what they want and making money from it"? That's all it takes to deserve respect beyond criticism is it? Just like the cast of 'Jersey shore', or 'Made in Chelsea' then. They provide entertainment to masses, they must therefore be artists and fantastic entertainers. All power to them.
As someone else mentioned a better comparison is something like crocs.
Anyway I'm bored now.
Lepu; has Bernie has spent far too long in the spraytan booth?
The Land Rover 6x6 Discovery we built here in Norfolk used a second transfer box over the rear axles to provide drive to all six wheels. Previous 6x6's used more agricultural axles connected together.
My favorite 6x6 has to be this...
...Australian built camper conversion. Zombie Apocalypse ready.
Rogue86 said:
Beefmeister said:
Oh I'm terribly sorry, were you standing right next to me all day? I was standing there, lifted the bonnet, took the picture and a large chap in a black suit came over and shut the bonnet giving me a dirty look. I don't much stand for people accusing me of lying, so kindly shove it up your arse.
Bit sensitive are we? Or embarassed to be caught out? Kahnt.
Prof Prolapse said:
robemcdonald said:
Prof Prolapse said:
robemcdonald said:
How do you know how much hard work or engineering is put into the "tat" Kahn design puts on to cars?
You do of course know that the original landrover was designed in a matter of months. This conversion has probably taken longer to engineer than the original prototype.
Im not a fan of Kahn or their products, but do know they dont deserve to have the piss taken out of them. They are out there doing what they want and making money from it. All power to them.
Because I have eyes and a basic grasp of engineering. Just look at the picture above of the engine bay for example.You do of course know that the original landrover was designed in a matter of months. This conversion has probably taken longer to engineer than the original prototype.
Im not a fan of Kahn or their products, but do know they dont deserve to have the piss taken out of them. They are out there doing what they want and making money from it. All power to them.
I'm struggling to see how production methods in 1948 of a different vehicle are relevant, even then I sincerely doubt it took less effort than reproducing what others have already done. This is nothing new as is repeatedly shown on this thread.
"Doing what they want and making money from it"? That's all it takes to deserve respect beyond criticism is it? Just like the cast of 'Jersey shore', or 'Made in Chelsea' then. They provide entertainment to masses, they must therefore be artists and fantastic entertainers. All power to them.
As someone else mentioned a better comparison is something like crocs.
Anyway I'm bored now.
1. I am a qualified mechanical engineer. How do you quantify your grasp of engineering?
2. It's relevant because it's the same car. A defender is a development of the original 1940s Land Rover.
3. Not beyond criticism, but you are displaying a very smug superior attitude. Because you don't like it, everyone should feel the same.
I don't like it either. The difference is that if someone wants to spend their money on one I won't judge them.
Beefmeister said:
Ah right, you work for them. There you go then.
Kahnt.
Indeed I do, as a photographer so far from an official spokesperson - probably best I bow out at this point as I don't want people to confuse my own opinion with an official stand-point of the company.Kahnt.
I just wanted it to be known that what you're saying is completely false; that bonnet was open for roughly 4 hours - opened by a potential customer and closed by a member of the press (wearing khakis, blue shirt and glasses) later on for a photograph. I know because I've been on the stand since Friday and I've set almost all of it up with the help of a couple of others (a videographer and a fashion designer - so again not exactly the bouncers you're trying to portray scaring people off the stand).
Having an opinion (good or bad) on the car is fine. Having an opinion on the company is fine. Making things up to support that opinion isn't fine.
Rogue86 said:
Beefmeister said:
Ah right, you work for them. There you go then.
Indeed I do, as a photographerI've been on the stand since Friday
Having an opinion (good or bad) on the car is fine.
TooMany2cvs said:
So what's the score on the mid axle, then? Any chance of a pic of how the drive is going to the rearmost (or is it 6x4?)?
As before, I'm not commenting in any official capacity so it's not really my place to say (feel free to contact the company if you'd like the official line - despite what is said on here we're an approachable bunch!). However the key point here is that the car displayed is a concept built for the show (lots of people seem to have ignored the 'concept' plates on the vehicle itself) - it's not necessarily representative of the final product.
Good lord, I'm genuinely not sure if it's unfaltering loyalty to the brand or just sheer lunacy, but there were at least three large guys in black suits on the stand. When I walked over the bonnet was shut. I opened it, took a photo and someone, I have no idea who, came over and shut it. I admit I was being melodramatic about his manner. Please PM me if you'd like to discuss it off-ph, I have nothing to gain from what I'm saying.
Believe it or not until these utterly bizarre Longnose creations I've been a staunch supporter of the more recent Kahn stuff.
Believe it or not until these utterly bizarre Longnose creations I've been a staunch supporter of the more recent Kahn stuff.
Beefmeister said:
I should add, they rather hurriedly came over and shut the bonnet after they saw me taking a pic. Maybe I shouldn't have opened the bonnet....
I was there. It was open all the time. But I am going to put it down to Beefmeister's totally heroic move. Edited by Beefmeister on Wednesday 4th March 13:39
Cap doffed, sir.
Beefmeister said:
Good lord, I'm genuinely not sure if it's unfaltering loyalty to the brand or just sheer lunacy, but there were at least three large guys in black suits on the stand. .
I was at Geneva this year, as last year, and had a good nose around the Kahn stand. made friends with a chap called Dharmesh who works for Kahn and was on the stands for the whole duration this year and last year. a genuinely nice bloke who recognised me and happily spoke to us on whatever I was asking, in this case where all 6 wheels driven on the huntsman and I was told yes. But don't forget its a concept, as I believe is the longnose.at no point where there any 'large guys' there. yes they were all wearing black suits or atleast smart blazer jackets, but none where intimidating. ..you must be a bit sensitive.
back on topic, I was not a fan of either the longnose or huntsman what so ever. the regular SWB defender looked fantastic though.. the others proportions looked a bit off in my eyes, particularly the longnose. I think Kahn should get more of their supercars with fancy wheels there rather than the landrover thing that they specialise in, some of it is getting a teeny weeny bit out of hand
Edited by irfan1712 on Wednesday 15th April 08:37
Edited by irfan1712 on Wednesday 15th April 10:34
In the early 80's some family friends owned a garage in Kettering (A.E. Smiths) and they had a department specialising in conversions like this.
They made loads of stretched Range Rovers, twin rear axle (not sure if it was true 6x6) and all sorts of other weird variations, nearly all of them were built to order and sent to Saudi.
I remember they had to build a convertible Range Rover which had a passenger seat raised up a few feet out the top for Princess Anne (or one of the others) to attend a local country show! He even got to drive her round the show in it stopping every so often and raising the seat up so she could have a look round
Edit:
Page here about them, including the one mentioned with raised seats
http://www.range-rover-classic.com/Home/land-rover...
They made loads of stretched Range Rovers, twin rear axle (not sure if it was true 6x6) and all sorts of other weird variations, nearly all of them were built to order and sent to Saudi.
I remember they had to build a convertible Range Rover which had a passenger seat raised up a few feet out the top for Princess Anne (or one of the others) to attend a local country show! He even got to drive her round the show in it stopping every so often and raising the seat up so she could have a look round
Edit:
Page here about them, including the one mentioned with raised seats
http://www.range-rover-classic.com/Home/land-rover...
Edited by djdest on Wednesday 15th April 09:00
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