RE: Kahn 'Flying Huntsman' announced
Discussion
Still offered for sale on the Chelsea Truck Co website - see bottom of page:
http://www.chelseatruckcompany.com/stock.php
http://www.chelseatruckcompany.com/stock.php
shakotan said:
Nope, it would be an Amateur Built Vehicle and be on a Q-reg.
Since a 6x6 chassis from a Type Approved Manufacturer doesn't exist, they wouldn't be able to claim it as a Kit Car, and therefore wouldn't be able to claim a Age Related Registration for it.
No, it really doesn't work like that.Since a 6x6 chassis from a Type Approved Manufacturer doesn't exist, they wouldn't be able to claim it as a Kit Car, and therefore wouldn't be able to claim a Age Related Registration for it.
IVA/SSTA/WVTA says whether it can be registered or not. No test pass, no registration.
IVA - individual vehicles get tested and registered.
SSTA - a representative sample from a small production run gets tested, up to 1,000 conforming vehicles per year get registered.
EWVTA - a representative sample from a large production run gets tested, all conforming vehicle get registered.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/type-approva...
When you get it registered, THEN comes the question of what the plate says about the age.
If it's a previously used vehicle being imported or otherwise first registered in the UK, then it gets an age-related for the date of manufacture or first reg.
Q-reg says "age indeterminate". No more, no less.
But if it's a new vehicle, and all new components are used, the age is not indeterminate. It is a new vehicle, so gets a current-year plate, just like any other new vehicle.
TooMany2cvs said:
No, it really doesn't work like that.
IVA/SSTA/WVTA says whether it can be registered or not. No test pass, no registration.
IVA - individual vehicles get tested and registered.
SSTA - a representative sample from a small production run gets tested, up to 1,000 conforming vehicles per year get registered.
EWVTA - a representative sample from a large production run gets tested, all conforming vehicle get registered.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/type-approva...
When you get it registered, THEN comes the question of what the plate says about the age.
If it's a previously used vehicle being imported or otherwise first registered in the UK, then it gets an age-related for the date of manufacture or first reg.
Q-reg says "age indeterminate". No more, no less.
But if it's a new vehicle, and all new components are used, the age is not indeterminate. It is a new vehicle, so gets a current-year plate, just like any other new vehicle.
If they've tried to IVA it as a brand new vehicle, then it would have to undergo the full Normal IVA, instead of the Basic IVA.IVA/SSTA/WVTA says whether it can be registered or not. No test pass, no registration.
IVA - individual vehicles get tested and registered.
SSTA - a representative sample from a small production run gets tested, up to 1,000 conforming vehicles per year get registered.
EWVTA - a representative sample from a large production run gets tested, all conforming vehicle get registered.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/type-approva...
When you get it registered, THEN comes the question of what the plate says about the age.
If it's a previously used vehicle being imported or otherwise first registered in the UK, then it gets an age-related for the date of manufacture or first reg.
Q-reg says "age indeterminate". No more, no less.
But if it's a new vehicle, and all new components are used, the age is not indeterminate. It is a new vehicle, so gets a current-year plate, just like any other new vehicle.
Normal IVA requires evidence of compliance with Front and Side Crash Protection under the Motor Vehicles (Approvals) Regulations 2001, which means crash testing would have to have been performed under EU Directive 96/79/EC Front Impact Regulation and EU Directive 96/27/EU Side Impact Protection.
So we're saying they've already built at least two other of these and put them through crash testing?
shakotan said:
If they've tried to IVA it as a brand new vehicle, then it would have to undergo the full Normal IVA, instead of the Basic IVA.
Normal IVA requires evidence of compliance with Front and Side Crash Protection under the Motor Vehicles (Approvals) Regulations 2001, which means crash testing would have to have been performed under EU Directive 96/79/EC Front Impact Regulation and EU Directive 96/27/EU Side Impact Protection.
So we're saying they've already built at least two other of these and put them through crash testing?
Here's a thought for you, have a read of the link you just quoted, and follow it through to full info about IVA.Normal IVA requires evidence of compliance with Front and Side Crash Protection under the Motor Vehicles (Approvals) Regulations 2001, which means crash testing would have to have been performed under EU Directive 96/79/EC Front Impact Regulation and EU Directive 96/27/EU Side Impact Protection.
So we're saying they've already built at least two other of these and put them through crash testing?
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-veh...
gov.uk said:
Basic IVA
Basic IVA involves a visual inspection and other tests to make sure the vehicle meets the necessary standards. You won’t normally need to provide any documentary evidence.
You can apply if you have a passenger car or light goods vehicle in one of these categories:
...
very low volume production vehicles
Basic IVA involves a visual inspection and other tests to make sure the vehicle meets the necessary standards. You won’t normally need to provide any documentary evidence.
You can apply if you have a passenger car or light goods vehicle in one of these categories:
...
very low volume production vehicles
Prof Prolapse said:
I thought it was funny personally.
I also don't think "aftermarket" actually caveats against what I said, I certainly stand by it. It is an abortion of a vehicle, and I cannot disagree more with anyone who says this man is a car enthusiast given he spends his days designing things to ruin them. Inside a warehouse filled with people who look like they should be the discovery program called "the garage", he's there hacking away at things real engineers pain-stakingly designed. Then rolling them in Swarovski crystals.
Frankly if you own one of these you should have your DSS payments stopped, your Burberry cap set on fire, then be sterilised. With rusty garden sheers. It's a piece of scrap which pushes no frontier except by which to demonstrate the incredible stupidity of people regarding their adoration of brands, and how expendable income in no way correlates with intelligence or class.
Finding idiots to sell crap to under the guise of producing a brand, doesn't make you an entrepreneur, it's been done a million times before, it makes you an oxygen thief. If this is the way of the industry, or subdivisions of it are heading, count me out. I'd rather be seen getting out of a sheep.
Top class! I also don't think "aftermarket" actually caveats against what I said, I certainly stand by it. It is an abortion of a vehicle, and I cannot disagree more with anyone who says this man is a car enthusiast given he spends his days designing things to ruin them. Inside a warehouse filled with people who look like they should be the discovery program called "the garage", he's there hacking away at things real engineers pain-stakingly designed. Then rolling them in Swarovski crystals.
Frankly if you own one of these you should have your DSS payments stopped, your Burberry cap set on fire, then be sterilised. With rusty garden sheers. It's a piece of scrap which pushes no frontier except by which to demonstrate the incredible stupidity of people regarding their adoration of brands, and how expendable income in no way correlates with intelligence or class.
Finding idiots to sell crap to under the guise of producing a brand, doesn't make you an entrepreneur, it's been done a million times before, it makes you an oxygen thief. If this is the way of the industry, or subdivisions of it are heading, count me out. I'd rather be seen getting out of a sheep.
I was told personally by one of the Kahn guys on the stand that it is definitely 6 wheel drive. Interior in all fairness I really liked. what I couldn't understand properly was how the hell the back seat passengers would get in 0 their only option was through the front doors If the seats folded forward or throught he rear barn door.
..if that helps anyone pondering over spending 200 large on it lol.
..if that helps anyone pondering over spending 200 large on it lol.
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