New car/330i problems.

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rallycross

12,793 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Needs a new fan by the sounds of it the rest of the things are just old car related problems nothing to be too concerned about.

Great place for E46 bits is these guys



http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sila-motors/E46-E39-E90-E...


JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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justanother5tar said:
Not a clue.

Thought they had a solid bulkhead with a ski flap tbh.
The touring and coupé came with split folding seats (60/40) on them but it was an option on the saloons and a rare one at that. Just taken a look through my saved adverts on AT and the car is still on there. Still looking longingly at it... wink

justanother5tar

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125 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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rallycross said:
Needs a new fan by the sounds of it the rest of the things are just old car related problems nothing to be too concerned about.

Great place for E46 bits is these guys



http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sila-motors/E46-E39-E90-E...
Yeah, i can't recall the fan coming on actually.

Im going to do the check tomorrow.

Thanks for the link.

justanother5tar

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Monday 2nd March 2015
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JakeT said:
The touring and coupé came with split folding seats (60/40) on them but it was an option on the saloons and a rare one at that. Just taken a look through my saved adverts on AT and the car is still on there. Still looking longingly at it... wink
ill have a look tomorrow.

Ill be happy when its sorted. They're awesome cars.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Sounds like my 325i, except it takes a motorway run then sudden stop to make it over heat, I have collected all the parts to do a full coolant system refresh, surprisingly cheap to be honest.

justanother5tar

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Herman Toothrot said:
Sounds like my 325i, except it takes a motorway run then sudden stop to make it over heat, I have collected all the parts to do a full coolant system refresh, surprisingly cheap to be honest.
Yeah, I'm looking to have it done/do it myself soon i think.

Do you have links to where you go the parts from?

confused_buyer

6,619 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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It could be the viscous coupling on the fan, rather than the fan its self. As a rear wheel drive car with a longitudial engine the primary cooling is off the crank driven fan at the front - not the electric one which is is mainly for the aircon condensor (I think it should still come on if the engine gets really hot though).

The viscous couplings do go (so the fan does not spin fast enough) and the electric ones pack up. If the electric one does not come on when you switch the aircon on it is faulty.

justanother5tar

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confused_buyer said:
It could be the viscous coupling on the fan, rather than the fan its self. As a rear wheel drive car with a longitudial engine the primary cooling is off the crank driven fan at the front - not the electric one which is is mainly for the aircon condensor (I think it should still come on if the engine gets really hot though).

The viscous couplings do go (so the fan does not spin fast enough) and the electric ones pack up. If the electric one does not come on when you switch the aircon on it is faulty.
So the fan should come when I turn on the A/C?

V8forweekends

2,481 posts

124 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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confused_buyer said:
It could be the viscous coupling on the fan, rather than the fan its self. As a rear wheel drive car with a longitudial engine the primary cooling is off the crank driven fan at the front - not the electric one which is is mainly for the aircon condensor (I think it should still come on if the engine gets really hot though).

The viscous couplings do go (so the fan does not spin fast enough) and the electric ones pack up. If the electric one does not come on when you switch the aircon on it is faulty.

Not all 330i's had viscous fans -later ones are electric only.

justanother5tar

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V8forweekends said:

Not all 330i's had viscous fans -later ones are electric only.
Mines an '02.

Herman Toothrot

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198 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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justanother5tar said:
Yeah, I'm looking to have it done/do it myself soon i think.

Do you have links to where you go the parts from?
Euro car parts, quite a few bits were not listed but when I went in to collect reserved stuff and asked they were able to supply basically everything, rad, viscous coupling, electric fan / shroud, coolant pipes, reservoir, cap, whole lot was sub £200

rallycross

12,793 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Yep 2 fans.

The elec rad fan for the a/c should come on with the a/c on but if it does not work it would not make the car overheat so the cars main fan must not be working also.

justanother5tar

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Monday 2nd March 2015
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rallycross said:
Yep 2 fans.

The elec rad fan for the a/c should come on with the a/c on but if it does not work it would not make the car overheat so the cars main fan must not be working also.
Is there any way to test it? The main one?

V8forweekends

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124 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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rallycross said:
Yep 2 fans.

The elec rad fan for the a/c should come on with the a/c on but if it does not work it would not make the car overheat so the cars main fan must not be working also.
Not on all e46s - some have a single large electric fan on the engine side instead of the viscous and aux electric - OP have a look - if you have an old fashioned propeller looking fan on the front of the engine driven by belts - you have the viscous one and there will be an auxiliary electric one in front of the rad - if not, you'll have a single large electric one in the engine bay.

justanother5tar

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V8forweekends said:
Not on all e46s - some have a single large electric fan on the engine side instead of the viscous and aux electric - OP have a look - if you have an old fashioned propeller looking fan on the front of the engine driven by belts - you have the viscous one and there will be an auxiliary electric one in front of the rad - if not, you'll have a single large electric one in the engine bay.
So, 1 fan = fan on back of rad. 2 fans = fan on front of rad. Sound.

DaveEssex

252 posts

157 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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From my own experience of a very similar 2003 car, I can confirm that the coolant tanks are very prone to crack and to lose a steady, but small amount of coolant continuously.
A much much cheaper item to replace than the radiator.

Edited by DaveEssex on Monday 2nd March 23:03

DaveEssex

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157 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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I can also tell you that there is one basis engineering downside resulting from any car having this wonderful straight six engine configeration, which is by the way the best design for dynamic balance, and that is that any crank driven fan at the front of the block, whose purpose is to cool the engine, will struggle to push enough cool air around the engine at tick-over. This is why so many old Jaguar XK engined cars and similar have had to have additional electrically driven fans fitted to prevent cars from overheating on tick over.
Yours maybe just a little down on efficiency resulting from age, and just need carefully managing.
Remember that it is not an issue as long as sufficient coolant is circulating, and that the pressure cap is holding firm - you are not seeing steam.
Heads do not distort/crack at anything like a water temperature of 100 to 200 degrees.
Note that all engines will heat up considerably higher than "normal" whenever they are switched off as heat soak takes place. and no coolant is circulating when the water pump stops running.

Edited by DaveEssex on Monday 2nd March 23:23

justanother5tar

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Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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So I checked this morning and the fan doesn't come on with A/C and demist on full. Is this likely to be a fan fault? Time for a new one?

Thanks.

V8forweekends

2,481 posts

124 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Could be a range of things unfortunately. Fan motor, thermo switch, fuse, wiring.

Which fan(s) do you have?

justanother5tar

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Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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V8forweekends said:
Could be a range of things unfortunately. Fan motor, thermo switch, fuse, wiring.

Which fan(s) do you have?
Just the single electric one on the engine side of the radiator.