Seriously. I understand why people trade in.
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9mm said:
I am certainly aware that most members appear to drive s
tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.
Chin up. You're obviously hurting because this thread has made you realise how many people despise your behavior when buying a car, but there's really no need. The country is packed full of assholes, so we aren't singling you out.tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Mr2Mike said:
9mm said:
I am certainly aware that most members appear to drive stboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.
Chin up. You're obviously hurting because this thread has made you realise how many people despise your behavior when buying a car, but there's really no need. The country is packed full of assholes, so we aren't singling you out.tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Conscript said:
Sump said:
VolvoT5 said:
One of the things that really puts me off changing car is knowing that the only options to dispose of my old car are 1) P/X and getting shafted by a dealer at both ends of the transaction or 2) dealing with these moronic 'best price bruv' tossers on eBay/Autotrader.
Then there is always the worry they will buy the car and then turn up 3 months later and moan that they have a flat tyre or chipped windscreen and you "have to offer 6 months warranty innit".
I actually sold a car once cheaply as it was cat C repaired. The 3.141 + key that bought it flogged it on immediately, using my own pictures and description but omitting the fact it was cat C. The next owner phoned me up (found my number from some service history invoice) and started moaning at me about 'did I know it was cat C' and 'how come the fuel consumption is so bad' and 'is there any way to disconnect the turbo to make it better?'............... because it is a 2.5 turbo petrol auto you fkwit and NO, you idiot!
Regardless of the jackass not doing a HPI check, a bit of a Then there is always the worry they will buy the car and then turn up 3 months later and moan that they have a flat tyre or chipped windscreen and you "have to offer 6 months warranty innit".
I actually sold a car once cheaply as it was cat C repaired. The 3.141 + key that bought it flogged it on immediately, using my own pictures and description but omitting the fact it was cat C. The next owner phoned me up (found my number from some service history invoice) and started moaning at me about 'did I know it was cat C' and 'how come the fuel consumption is so bad' and 'is there any way to disconnect the turbo to make it better?'............... because it is a 2.5 turbo petrol auto you f
kwit and NO, you idiot! Edited by VolvoT5 on Friday 6th March 09:38
thing to do is omitting the fact it's a Cat C.The guy who bought it off him then sold it immediately did.
Mr2Mike said:
9mm said:
I am certainly aware that most members appear to drive stboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.
Chin up. You're obviously hurting because this thread has made you realise how many people despise your behavior when buying a car, but there's really no need. The country is packed full of assholes, so we aren't singling you out.tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.
david hockney said:
I've got a 911SC posted for sale on Piston Heads right now- it's the first car I've ever tried to sell private and it's been thoroughly demoralising.
I had one bloke ask for a fully detailed record of service history- where it was serviced, at what mileage and work done-
The car is 32 years old !!!!- I'd have to take a day off work......I'm not desperate to sell the car so I've got to the point I can hardly be bothered to respond to the tyre kickers...
But at the same time you're asking top money for it so people wanting this type of detail should be expected.I had one bloke ask for a fully detailed record of service history- where it was serviced, at what mileage and work done-
The car is 32 years old !!!!- I'd have to take a day off work......I'm not desperate to sell the car so I've got to the point I can hardly be bothered to respond to the tyre kickers...
Wacky Racer said:
So vendors can be hard work too..........
So true!A good one that sticks in my mind:
One of my best mates sold his newish Focus about 3 years ago as he fancied a complete change to a Jag S Type diesel, and found one at Nottingham that he like the look of. Phoned up about it, sent a couple of emails, and arranged to go down on the train from Carlisle to Nottingham to view it and take it home then and there if he liked it.
So he sets off early one Saturday morning on the train with some sandwiches and a rucksack containing about £9000 in cash, sends the guy a couple of texts on the way down to confirm that he is coming, guy responds but it takes him a while.
My mate eventually gets to Nottingham after a couple of train changes etc, and then tries to phone the seller... No answer, so he texts and seller says 'on my way to pick you up', an hour goes past... Nothing. My mate then tries ringing and texting multiple times for the next hour or two until he realised that he has been totally stood up for a reason that I guess he will never know.
So he tries to get back home, but by this point it's starting to get late and he only manages to make it as far North as Leeds station before running out of trains.
He now finds himself alone at Leeds station, at about 10:30 on a Saturday night, with a bag full of cash... And the weirdos, drunks, homeless and vultures have started to circle:
"Alright mate can I borrow some money"
"Can I use your phone"
"What's in the bag?"
"You look lost"
Etc
So I get the panicked phone call to go and pick him up as soon as possible.
I made the 2 hour drive rather quickly.
Most of the cars I've sold over recent years have been shed territory and often sub £1000. Stuff you really wouldn't be trading in realistically.
Easiest to sell was anything clean and well priced. Did well with a couple of Saabs, both sold quickly and for full asking price with any faults pointed out, around the £600 mark. Even made a few quid on a Sri Vectra, the guy needed a cheap car due to a house project. Sold a LS400 via eBay. No hassle and the buyer came the same day and paid up.
Most difficult? probably a £500 2.0 Mondeo, numpties ringing and complaining that it'd be too hard to run and they wanted a diesel - why the fk are you ringing then?? or that it needed expensive work and bidding £200 (I'd advertised it with about 6 months MOT but potentially needing a wheel bearing) Sold in the end to a local chinese takeaway, he brought a mechanic friend who said it was cock on for the money but he absolutely tortured me a week later when a headlamp bulb blew.
Also got tortured with a Passat, had a few miles on it but it was the cheapest on autotrader by some margin. Had to switch my phone off for about a week, people were calling at all hours. The buyer wanted to leave the car back a month later and stupidly admitted that he'd had it remapped and the turbo had blown. That didn't really help his cause.
Mixed experiences really and certain cars just seem to attract aholes. I'm going to shift my Alfa 166 shortly and really not looking forward to it - fast and cheap usually means hassle
Easiest to sell was anything clean and well priced. Did well with a couple of Saabs, both sold quickly and for full asking price with any faults pointed out, around the £600 mark. Even made a few quid on a Sri Vectra, the guy needed a cheap car due to a house project. Sold a LS400 via eBay. No hassle and the buyer came the same day and paid up.
Most difficult? probably a £500 2.0 Mondeo, numpties ringing and complaining that it'd be too hard to run and they wanted a diesel - why the f
k are you ringing then?? or that it needed expensive work and bidding £200 (I'd advertised it with about 6 months MOT but potentially needing a wheel bearing) Sold in the end to a local chinese takeaway, he brought a mechanic friend who said it was cock on for the money but he absolutely tortured me a week later when a headlamp bulb blew. Also got tortured with a Passat, had a few miles on it but it was the cheapest on autotrader by some margin. Had to switch my phone off for about a week, people were calling at all hours. The buyer wanted to leave the car back a month later and stupidly admitted that he'd had it remapped and the turbo had blown. That didn't really help his cause.
Mixed experiences really and certain cars just seem to attract a
holes. I'm going to shift my Alfa 166 shortly and really not looking forward to it - fast and cheap usually means hassleSump said:
Mr2Mike said:
9mm said:
I am certainly aware that most members appear to drive stboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.
Chin up. You're obviously hurting because this thread has made you realise how many people despise your behavior when buying a car, but there's really no need. The country is packed full of assholes, so we aren't singling you out.tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Along with a few other people, you seem to think there's some sort of judgement to be made of people based on what they drive. I just comment on what the car is - a repmobile is just that, whether it's an old Cavalier or a new 3-series listing at £35K. I just bought an old Nissan to play about with and I'm sanguine about someone viewing it as a piece of jap crap. Same with my S-type, although I'd be surprised and amused if anyone could seriously try and pass it off as a s
tbox or repmobile. Especially if they drove a diesel hatchback.What I won't do is b
h about people offering me half the asking price if I ever have to sell it. That's because the cars aren't a GTR, 2000GT, D-type or XFR."Cash Now", I can see how that works but basically as long as I get the money I dont care if its all your grubby tenners from selling weed or whatever, nowadays I tend to go to the bank and get the funds transferred there.
I think what we need to do is advertise a suitable car, say a £1500 diesel Primera with only 30k on or some kind of knackered hot hatch as a bait car and tell the "innit, whats yer best price for cash" that we will let it go for £750 if they get down in the next hour, then capture and question them as to their motives, is it just a hobby ? do they ever manage to buy a car for 50 percent of the asking price, I bet they actually turn out to be a nice, quite posh chap called Giles from Cambridge who gets off on pretending he is an inner city ruffian as his wife loves the role play ?
Then, obviously feed them to the hound, but first, say "You see my my dog over there, you are going to be innit"
I think what we need to do is advertise a suitable car, say a £1500 diesel Primera with only 30k on or some kind of knackered hot hatch as a bait car and tell the "innit, whats yer best price for cash" that we will let it go for £750 if they get down in the next hour, then capture and question them as to their motives, is it just a hobby ? do they ever manage to buy a car for 50 percent of the asking price, I bet they actually turn out to be a nice, quite posh chap called Giles from Cambridge who gets off on pretending he is an inner city ruffian as his wife loves the role play ?
Then, obviously feed them to the hound, but first, say "You see my my dog over there, you are going to be innit"
I was reading all these thinking how I had got off lightly in the past - few Ali'G types, but outnumbered by serious and genuine buyers.
Then I remembered about the scammer that had emailed me a few times and found the old string of emails I'd shown to a mate.
http://s6.photobucket.com/user/xfamoussasx/media/W...
Makes me laugh it still happens.
Then I remembered about the scammer that had emailed me a few times and found the old string of emails I'd shown to a mate.
http://s6.photobucket.com/user/xfamoussasx/media/W...
Makes me laugh it still happens.
9mm said:
What I won't do is bh about people offering me half the asking price if I ever have to sell it. That's because the cars aren't a GTR, 2000GT, D-type or XFR.
What's the point in you, or anyone else, offering 50% of the asking price for a car, though?h about people offering me half the asking price if I ever have to sell it. That's because the cars aren't a GTR, 2000GT, D-type or XFR.Whether it's under-priced, over-priced (or wombling free) no one is ever going to say, "you know what mate, I will take the £5k you've offered for the car I've got up at £9,999".
They just wouldn't sell it.
It might be that it eventually ends up advertised again at £6,999, at which point your original £5k offer might then go down better than a cup of cold vomit.
I've sold many cars on eBay. Almost always genuine buyers and nice people. I sold my mint VW Touran to a young family who didn't even try to haggle, so I had the car detailed for them before sale - they turned up and were thrilled. Smiles all round.
Sadly, whenever I sell performance cars thats where the trouble starts. My E55 AMG was a nightmare - one guy rang up and gave me a story about turning thirty, "turning his life around, how he'd just bought a rolex and wanted a 'flash motor'", and then offered me £2,000 less than the asking, sight unseen. Needless to say, that didn't end well.
eBay and Autotrader are representative of the world in general. Mostly, people are straight, nice (or at least civil) and sales go well. Maybe 10% of the time, people are tts. Like everything in life really - 90% good, 10% tts.
Sadly, whenever I sell performance cars thats where the trouble starts. My E55 AMG was a nightmare - one guy rang up and gave me a story about turning thirty, "turning his life around, how he'd just bought a rolex and wanted a 'flash motor'", and then offered me £2,000 less than the asking, sight unseen. Needless to say, that didn't end well.
eBay and Autotrader are representative of the world in general. Mostly, people are straight, nice (or at least civil) and sales go well. Maybe 10% of the time, people are t
ts. Like everything in life really - 90% good, 10% tts.
For anyone that gives a toss, as the OP the car has had a substantial deposit placed on it and is 99% sold. I have had, since that a few nuggets ringing up and the odd Hamilton. Also, I`ve had a few seriously well mannered and genuine enquiries, strangely from Northern Ireland, where I`m assuming these cars are rare. Ebay for me is the best platform.
Bumtree I wouldn`t bother with. It`s an online jumble sale and same goes for Facebook car or wanted and for sale pages. Just a fking junk exchange with people offering you plasma tellies or 200k mile Golf diesels in part exchange.
Bumtree I wouldn`t bother with. It`s an online jumble sale and same goes for Facebook car or wanted and for sale pages. Just a f
king junk exchange with people offering you plasma tellies or 200k mile Golf diesels in part exchange.I've sold all of my cars privately and come across all sorts in the process. What I've learned from these experiences:
. It seems that not just buyers are cretins.
- Ignore all text messages
- Anyone who brings up price without seeing the car will be a complete timewaster, ignore them
- If they don't have a good grasp of the English language (either 'ethnic minority' who couldn't be bothered to learn English properly, Ali-G types or just plain retarded) then just put the phone down, they will be a total waste of time and the sheer blind idiocy will give you a headache
- Arrange viewings around when you are free, never arrange your day around a buyer
- If the price is right eventually a literate, solvent and intelligible buyer will appear, don't feel you have to interact with the pond life in order to make a sale
. It seems that not just buyers are cretins.PorkInsider said:
9mm said:
What I won't do is bh about people offering me half the asking price if I ever have to sell it. That's because the cars aren't a GTR, 2000GT, D-type or XFR.
What's the point in you, or anyone else, offering 50% of the asking price for a car, though?h about people offering me half the asking price if I ever have to sell it. That's because the cars aren't a GTR, 2000GT, D-type or XFR.Whether it's under-priced, over-priced (or wombling free) no one is ever going to say, "you know what mate, I will take the £5k you've offered for the car I've got up at £9,999".
They just wouldn't sell it.
It might be that it eventually ends up advertised again at £6,999, at which point your original £5k offer might then go down better than a cup of cold vomit.
The price of the car is also a factor. Getting a car for 50% of the asking price might be unusual at £10K but it becomes increasingly more likely as the price drops, so a grand for a car advertised at £1995 wouldn't surprise me at all. In addition, at all levels, there are people who are desperate to offload the car. Sure, they'd like £10k but they can't hold out for a better offer than the one you're making.
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