Best 964 RS Colour?

[GC8]

Cup1s surely?

[mechagran]

gilbo said:

My thoughts exactly. Just a stunning colour

[mechagran]

k-ink said:

Any of the bright Porsche blue colours would be great. But make sure it is a proper full respray and not a dodgy wrap. A 964 does not deserve to have scalpels and plastic tat dragged all over it!

Vinyl wraps have come a long way since the days of awful bubbly messes (good ones anyway).

It's very hard to tell a really good wrap from paint without actually touching the car if done properly. If i was to respray the car (notwithstanding the vast price gulf of at least £2k) i'd feel obliged to respray it in its original colour in case I had to sell one day. You know the porsche purists wont buy a car that is different to the v5. So whilst I want to stamp my own mark on the car, the beauty of wrapping decently is that in the future the car can be returned to standard relatively swiftly.

[k-ink]

I just feel any high quality car should not be wrapped. My view is to do it properly or not at all. Sorry, just my view.

[LAWSY1]

Wrap is a no brainer, for all the reasons you have given. I would happily get my 997TT wrapped PROPERLY, as it is not permanent. Also, because it is ultimately 'undoable' you are not screwed financially when you come to move the car on. Bit like tattoo's, what you like this year, you certainly won't like in 5 or 10 years time. Always fancied a tattoo, but never have or would, purely because its forever. But I also understand why people have them, in the same way some people would only ever respray a car.

mechagran said:

k-ink said:

Any of the bright Porsche blue colours would be great. But make sure it is a proper full respray and not a dodgy wrap. A 964 does not deserve to have scalpels and plastic tat dragged all over it!

Vinyl wraps have come a long way since the days of awful bubbly messes (good ones anyway).

It's very hard to tell a really good wrap from paint without actually touching the car if done properly. If i was to respray the car (notwithstanding the vast price gulf of at least £2k) i'd feel obliged to respray it in its original colour in case I had to sell one day. You know the porsche purists wont buy a car that is different to the v5. So whilst I want to stamp my own mark on the car, the beauty of wrapping decently is that in the future the car can be returned to standard relatively swiftly.

[hondansx]

Use it for a bit before jumping into a decision. This may be a car you've always wanted, but after the honeymoon you may feel differently...

I think resale value and ease, original colour will always be best. However, there will certainly be someone who sees value in it being in a very rare colour. That guy would be me, but i'd be trying to haggle you down for messing with the originality!

[k-ink]

I agree with the tattoo comment actually. However on a car like this, no one should get into modifying with a view to future resale values. You do this sort of thing if you have your dream car and wish to make it personal and keep it forever. As such, a proper job is the only way I'd proceed. Even if that meant waiting to save up for a decent paint job with no corners cut. Hell, I've done this on relatively cheaper cars, let alone a dream vehicle like a 964. But each to their own

[mechagran]

k-ink said:

I agree with the tattoo comment actually. However on a car like this, no one should get into modifying with a view to future resale values. You do this sort of thing if you have your dream car and wish to make it personal and keep it forever. As such, a proper job is the only way I'd proceed. Even if that meant waiting to save up for a decent paint job with no corners cut. Hell, I've done this on relatively cheaper cars, let alone a dream vehicle like a 964. But each to their own

Ultimately it comes down to personal preference. I know the c2 i'm buying already has some major tweaks, so returning to absolute standard is highly unlikely but people are funny things and paint / colour is a big no no unless you are willing to retain the car forever. I think that the reality is porsche people as a breed are relatively conservative on the surface but underneath we are all children who want to have fun. So, the vinyl thing is a half way house. I can have the car of MY dreams but if one day it has to go (kids etc are on the horizon) then it can still be the car of someone else's dreams too. One day guards red will make a come back like fashions often do, and then I can whip the RS colour off and hey presto "originality" is at least, in part, restored.

[smithyithy]

I can't wait until I can afford a 964, because resale value and purist opinions will be the last things on my mind.

I'd have lusted after the car for too long to care, it will be mine to keep

[k-ink]

I'd love one as a long term project to tuck up in the garage. I'd do a full nut and bolt restoration and a whole load of personal mods. First thing first, I'd have it stopped to bare metal and get the shell perfect in a lovely colour. Then I'd be bolting shiny new or restored bits back on. One day maybe

[mechagran]

smithyithy said:

I can't wait until I can afford a 964, because resale value and purist opinions will be the last things on my mind.

I'd have lusted after the car for too long to care, it will be mine to keep

To be honest that's how I feel. But i never buy a car without an eye on the future value. It's why i've never bought a new or nearly new car as frankly I think people that do (putting aside company cars) are wastrels.

And, having owned 8 911s, and in total 60+ cars now I can honestly say that by buying well and having an eye on the future you can usually break fairly even. Classic and sports ownership neednt be left to silver haired retirees and occasional sunday drives.

Ironically you could have bought a 964 when it was the overlooked "ugly" 911, for £12k. If I had a spare hundred grand i'd be snapping up low mileage manual 996 turbos like they were going out of fashion because they would eventually pay my house off

[mechagran]

k-ink said:

I'd love one as a long term project to tuck up in the garage. I'd do a full nut and bolt restoration and a whole load of personal mods. First thing first, I'd have it stopped to bare metal and get the shell perfect in a lovely colour. Then I'd be bolting shiny new or restored bits back on. One day maybe

Put simply, you'd enjoy it and love it - but just that bit more when it pays you back for owning it!

[andy_roe]

I'd have to go with Mint Green.

I've seen quite a few cars getting painted in Rubystone Red and Maritime Blue now and think that the Mint Green is rarer than them both. It looks stunning in the flesh too.

[mechagran]

andy_roe said:

I'd have to go with Mint Green.

I've seen quite a few cars getting painted in Rubystone Red and Maritime Blue now and think that the Mint Green is rarer than them both. It looks stunning in the flesh too.

I agree, ruby stone looks to pinky and mint is just lovely when done properly!

[smithyithy]

mechagran said:

To be honest that's how I feel. But i never buy a car without an eye on the future value. It's why i've never bought a new or nearly new car as frankly I think people that do (putting aside company cars) are wastrels.

And, having owned 8 911s, and in total 60+ cars now I can honestly say that by buying well and having an eye on the future you can usually break fairly even. Classic and sports ownership neednt be left to silver haired retirees and occasional sunday drives.

Ironically you could have bought a 964 when it was the overlooked "ugly" 911, for £12k. If I had a spare hundred grand i'd be snapping up low mileage manual 996 turbos like they were going out of fashion because they would eventually pay my house off

I could've bought a 964 when I was 18/19, lived on baked beans for a year or two.

Now I'm nearly 25 and there's no way I can put up the cash they're going for.

One can simply wait, and hope.

I get a car allowance through work so I have actually bought a car new, mainly because the finance deal was as good as a lease - yes I'm only really paying the deprecation, but the allowance covers most of the monthly outgoing so I got a brand new car to my spec for very little cost.

Secondly because my employer penalise us for having an allowance and not taking one of their base-spec 1.5cdti Astra pool cars.. Any car we buy ourselves has to be low CO2, high Euro NCAP, airbags, ABS... SO they obviously won't pay for a motorcycle either..

[TonyF55]

I like Signal Green.

[mechagran]

smithyithy said:

I could've bought a 964 when I was 18/19, lived on baked beans for a year or two.

Now I'm nearly 25 and there's no way I can put up the cash they're going for.

One can simply wait, and hope.

I get a car allowance through work so I have actually bought a car new, mainly because the finance deal was as good as a lease - yes I'm only really paying the deprecation, but the allowance covers most of the monthly outgoing so I got a brand new car to my spec for very little cost.

Secondly because my employer penalise us for having an allowance and not taking one of their base-spec 1.5cdti Astra pool cars.. Any car we buy ourselves has to be low CO2, high Euro NCAP, airbags, ABS... SO they obviously won't pay for a motorcycle either..

Yeah i completely get that (it's why I said excluding company) as obviously you cant turn down a decent car if it's been part-funded and within the rules. When i was 25 these cars were much cheaper, so if you can find something now to buy that in 10 years time is going to go bonkers now is the time to look; possibly a low mileage manual c2 996 in a decent colour with a factory gt2 aerokit? I sold a midnight blue one last year for £12k with 40k on the clock to my mate's dad now worth £15 ish? Perhaps the 996 is the next cheap 911 to move upwards?

If you can stretch to it a standard 996 turbo is a pretty good bet for the next 5 years.

[smithyithy]

[quote=mechagran]

Yeah i completely get that (it's why I said excluding company) as obviously you cant turn down a decent car if it's been part-funded and within the rules. When i was 25 these cars were much cheaper, so if you can find something now to buy that in 10 years time is going to go bonkers now is the time to look; possibly a low mileage manual c2 996 in a decent colour with a factory gt2 aerokit? I sold a midnight blue one last year for £12k with 40k on the clock to my mate's dad now worth £15 ish? Perhaps the 996 is the next cheap 911 to move upwards?

If you can stretch to it a standard 996 turbo is a pretty good bet for the next 5 years.

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I'd love a nice 996 to be honest, I did look at a few prior to getting my current car, and actually convinced myself if I got one for a decent price I could afford to use and run it daily

The Fleet emailed me saying I was having a laugh with those kind of emission figures

You're right though, I think the Turbo especially will be a surefire investment in years to come.

[mechagran]

smithyithy said:

I'd love a nice 996 to be honest, I did look at a few prior to getting my current car, and actually convinced myself if I got one for a decent price I could afford to use and run it daily

The Fleet emailed me saying I was having a laugh with those kind of emission figures

You're right though, I think the Turbo especially will be a surefire investment in years to come.

The irony of a company insisting you buy a "new car" due to emissions when the carbon footprint of new car manufacture is so vast compared to a bit of 996 pork is pretty galling. Got to love ultra-man-maths of the industry.

15,000 new cars per week = smog in china for months > used sports car at produces 0.00004% more carbon than new car per trip. Genius.

[smithyithy]

mechagran said:

The irony of a company insisting you buy a "new car" due to emissions when the carbon footprint of new car manufacture is so vast compared to a bit of 996 pork is pretty galling. Got to love ultra-man-maths of the industry.

15,000 new cars per week = smog in china for months > used sports car at produces 0.00004% more carbon than new car per trip. Genius.

I know, it's daft to be honest.

If I remember rightly, it stated that new cars were fine, but anything over 5 years had to meet a load of restrictions.. Even though like you said, new cars create loads more emissions initially, at least by buying used the car's already on the road.

I'd found a really nice Elise S2 just within budget, but it was 163g CO2 and the limit is 160g

To say I was disappointed would be an understatement