Car vs Bike with a difference

Car vs Bike with a difference

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Friday 6th March 2015
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RobM77 said:
yes It's simple physics and the case at most circuits. Formula Renault 2.0 for example, with several examples now available for around £14k following the championships' demise in the UK, have a lap record at Barcelona of 1m42s, despite being 500kg and 210bhp (420bhp/tonne), vs 150kg and 240bhp (1600bhp/tonne) for a Moto GP bike. If you account for a 65kg rider/driver that's 371 & 1116bhp/tonne.FRenault 3.5 with 800bhp/tonne, so half that of the Moto GP bike, are in the 1min28s... It really is an open and shut case. Even if you remove the downforce and add in road legal tyres, recent Formula Fords with Fiesta engines are right up there with bike lap times at most UK circuits, so just imagine if they had 200 or 300bhp! The car concept is just quicker basically; it's only the requirements that road car buyers have like air con, leather seats, comfy ride etc that makes them slower than sports bikes, which are pretty hardcore because that's what those buyers want. If you concentrate on performance, four wheels with a low CofG is pretty unbeatable. That's not to say riding a bike isn't huge fun of course - I'd probably rather race a historic V8 sports car than a Radical - it's not all about speed.

Edited by RobM77 on Thursday 5th March 18:49
beer Rob I agree race cars will always be quicker than race bikes & 1000cc road bikes would decimate 99.9% of road cars what I'm trying yo work out is what type of road car should an NSR250 for example not mess with.

Now I personally think that the Fiesta with it's 200bhp & Four on modern grippy tyres(remember showroom spec) ABS etc would beat the NSR in the drag race & win/lose by (let's say Cadwell where there are pros & cons for both) less than a second to the bike. I'm edging towards the Fiesta (and I'm a Bike guy) the slim rubber & old less grippy rubber might just hand it to the Fiesta.

As a sidebar I'd love to race any V8 Supercar they just look like a handful of fun.

RobM77

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Friday 6th March 2015
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yes Sorry for the thread diversion!

Emubiker

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Friday 6th March 2015
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Willy Nilly said:
Emubiker said:
Willy Nilly said:
I got past an Elise on an NSL B road riding my C90 bowtie
An Elise is hardly built for top end speed though. Not a fair comparison.
Have you ever ridden a C90?
have you ever experianced a whoosh parrot?