Anybody got an MQB Estate?

Anybody got an MQB Estate?

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carparkno1

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1,432 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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So a few days ago I asked for advice on Estate vs SUV and PH overwhelming voted estate because we're cool like that.

Looking at something not too big (E class terrified the missus when we looked) and stumbled on the Leon sport tourer thing. Looks the part, not too big, seems to share all the bits of the golf and octavia estates but a bit "younger" to look at.

Wondered if anybody had any version of this platform as an estate and how the found the ride and space in general? I'm looking at the 1.4 150bhp ACT engine, sounds quite advanced in its technology and decent shove for a family car.

Any advice appreciated chaps and chapesses :-)

conkerman

3,301 posts

135 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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A what?

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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conkerman said:
A what?
An estate car based on VW's latest Modularer Querbaukasten platform, so all new Golfs, Passats, Leons, A3s, Octavias and Superbs.

carparkno1

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1,432 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I had no idea the new Audi TT shared this platform as well.

Blimey talk about a jack of all trades. I'll assume it's a fairly comfy ride if it supports the golf and passat. Suppose it also means fairly dead vw steering as well.

Spooge

150 posts

112 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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My S3 counts, sorta, I guess. MQB cars, to me at least, all feel different to drive. It's quite a versatile platform from what I understand.

I find the ride to be pretty good, but the state of the roads around Manchester isn't great. I assume you'd have something with softer suspension, I have the 3 door, and there isn't a huge amount of space in the back, but I'm 6'4", I believe the 5 door variants are longer too.

That said I do really like the car though, go and test drive a couple, they'll likely feel different.

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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In fairness, MQB is really an architecture, not a "platform" in the conventional sense that all the cars are basically the same. What it means is that the engine and gearbox positions and mounts are the same, as is most of the front axle, so that they only have to develop each powertrain once and can then transfer it into other MQB products much more easily. They do share a lot of components and design philosophies, but remain pretty different cars.

Before long all transverse-engined VW products will be based on MQB (the Q, Quer, meaning transverse), while the longitudinal ones will align to the MLB (guess) platform already used on most bigger Audis.

andburg

7,289 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I have a 2014 Octavia estate, its roomy (its bigger than the golf / leon ST), well specced with DAB / USB / Bluetooth as standard but the touchscreen is low resolution and its not the most responsive, believe its an identical system in all VAG group cars in the segment unless you upgrade to one with navigation which may be a little faster.

Colleague had a 2014 Leon and now has an octavia, he prefers his octavia as a place to sit.

The ride isn't brilliant but its not uncomfortable, its just a little crashy over uneven surfaces and potholes even on 16" wheels. I'd expect the Leon to be a little firmer still. Steering is dull but dependable, doesn't urge you into throwing the car around.

Cant comment on the 1.4 turbo petrol as this is a 1.6 diesel, its slow, not hugely economical (54mpg) but does the job.

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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McSam said:
In fairness, MQB is really an architecture, not a "platform" in the conventional sense that all the cars are basically the same. What it means is that the engine and gearbox positions and mounts are the same, as is most of the front axle, so that they only have to develop each powertrain once and can then transfer it into other MQB products much more easily. They do share a lot of components and design philosophies, but remain pretty different cars.

Before long all transverse-engined VW products will be based on MQB (the Q, Quer, meaning transverse), while the longitudinal ones will align to the MLB (guess) platform already used on most bigger Audis.
Cheers, interesting, didnt know that is what it stood for.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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carparkno1 said:
I had no idea the new Audi TT shared this platform as well.

Blimey talk about a jack of all trades.
...which is why the development costs nearly did VAG serious financial damage. Fifty BILLION quid...

carparkno1

Original Poster:

1,432 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Thanks for the info so far guys. May try one this weekend

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
... Fifty BILLION quid...
Wow, I had no idea.
I'm counting the days until we see compact Porsche, Bentley and Lamborghini branded city cars. frown

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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EricE said:
Wow, I had no idea.
I'm counting the days until we see compact Porsche, Bentley and Lamborghini branded city cars. frown
If the EU keep meddling with car manufactures and setting poorly thought out targets then a Porsche, Bentley or Lamborghini city car may become a necessity in order to continue selling their high end products! Look at Aston's rebadged Toyota as an example!

As for the VAG platform the larger upfront development cost is compensated for by much lower ongoing costs, greater flexibility from one design that ultimately allows them to have one platform which can be tailored to fit the requirements of dozens of applications.

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I've had a ride in a new Octavia Estate which didn't feel any different to the MQB hatches I've driven. Very close in size to the outgoing Passat Estate.

The 1.4 TSI ACT engine really is excellent and unless you're doing big mileage its the one to go for smile

carparkno1

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1,432 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Can't have the act engine with dsg. Bit surprising!

Moley RUFC

3,615 posts

189 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Here's mine Octy vRS estate. Cracking motor and loving every mile. The boot is truly cavernous which means it works well as a family motor too.

vanordinaire

3,701 posts

162 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Slightly smaller but similar, my wife replaced her mk4 golf with a Seat Ibiza estate recently. It does everything very very well, can't fault it but it's the first time in 30something years of driving that I've found a car boring.

caymanbill

378 posts

135 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Estates? Yuk. An SUV would be more comfortable, provide a better driving position and generally be a much more desirable overall proposition.

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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caymanbill said:
Estates? Yuk. An SUV would be more comfortable, provide a better driving position and generally be a much more desirable overall proposition.
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No, an suv is only the choice of poseurs/idiots who don't know much about cars and think an SUV is just the thing to go for.

carparkno1

Original Poster:

1,432 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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caymanbill said:
Estates? Yuk. An SUV would be more comfortable, provide a better driving position and generally be a much more desirable overall proposition.
Useless for dogs as a rule, and not as involving to drive?