We are all getting robbed at the pumps!, does anyone care?.

We are all getting robbed at the pumps!, does anyone care?.

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conkerman

3,301 posts

136 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Is it school holidays?

Swanny87

1,265 posts

120 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Dave Hedgehog said:
well someone has to pay for all those millions of immigrants that moved here for all the freebies
And for all the British nationals who have 20 kids and claim 30k a year in benefits.

And for all the British nationals who go out and get overly blotto on a Friday and Sat night, fall over/fight and break themselves, and end up in A&E because of this.

The fact that the banks fked up and took a massive bailout from the treasury.

One that applies here more, all the divvies who text and drive/don't drive to the conditions etc and cause a pile up on the motorway which costs the economy millions.

What other problems are you going to blame this supposed 'robbery' on?

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I'm rarely directly insulting, but the OP is stupid.

LordGrover

33,546 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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^^ yes

Finlandia said:
Watchman said:
Where would you suggest the tax be collected from instead?
Cyclists? hehe
Seconded!
Do we have a quorum?

Dave Hedgehog

14,568 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Swanny87 said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
well someone has to pay for all those millions of immigrants that moved here for all the freebies
And for all the British nationals who have 20 kids and claim 30k a year in benefits.

And for all the British nationals who go out and get overly blotto on a Friday and Sat night, fall over/fight and break themselves, and end up in A&E because of this.

The fact that the banks fked up and took a massive bailout from the treasury.

One that applies here more, all the divvies who text and drive/don't drive to the conditions etc and cause a pile up on the motorway which costs the economy millions.

What other problems are you going to blame this supposed 'robbery' on?
you forgot the fatties who cant bend over to put shoes on so cant work

Matt UK

17,712 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Antracer said:
I dont need to explain myself it's pretty obvious whats going on yet no one has done a thing about it.

THIEVING GOVERNMENT

I believe an organised protest is in order.
What-ho, an organised protest you say? Hor-rah, count me in!

Just to be clear though, are you organising it?

Or is this one of those 'something needs to be done about something that annoys me, but it needs to be done by someone else' comments made by people who bleat away in the corner of life's stage, never really seeming to make a meaningful difference to anything or anyone?

I'm just checking before I pack my banners and sandwiches you see.

Edited by Matt UK on Wednesday 4th March 14:58

CrisW

522 posts

194 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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LordGrover said:
Seconded!
Do we have a quorum?
If you go to the clinic you can get a lotion which'll clear it up in no time.

Joeguard1990

1,181 posts

127 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Motorrad said:
What we need is a campaign. Say we boycott BP every third tuesday of a full moon or something. That'll learn them good.
Why BP? Surely you boycott the expensive garages?

AlexHat

1,327 posts

120 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Joeguard1990 said:
Why BP? Surely you boycott the expensive garages?
In my experience BP fuel is nearly always AT LEAST ONE WHOLE PENNY more expensive than, say, the nearest Shell or Esso/generic filling station

8Ace

2,690 posts

199 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Mr2Mike said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Less than 25%, because so much of the petrol price is tax. That is precisely the point.
That is not the point the OP was making. He naively expects forecourt prices to track crude oil prices proportionally, but this simply can't happen as the tax is a fixed cost, not to mention the overhead of refining the the stuff.
Not entirely a bad thing either as it makes the price at the pump much less volatile when crude prices go crackers.


shakotan

10,709 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Antracer said:
I dont need to explain myself it's pretty obvious whats going on yet no one has done a thing about it.

THIEVING GOVERNMENT

I believe an organised protest is in order.
The only thing you appear robbed of is IQ.

macky17

2,212 posts

190 months

conkerman

3,301 posts

136 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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RobinBanks said:
I'm rarely directly insulting, but the OP is stupid.
On reflection and a look through their post history.

Weapons Grade.

Justin Case

2,195 posts

135 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Wasn't someone recently suggesting on another thread that fuel tax should actually go up and VED eliminated. Having just shelled out (dreadful pun intended) £265 for a years VED, I might even agree with that if the sums add up for me.


Who me ?

7,455 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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8Ace said:
Not entirely a bad thing either as it makes the price at the pump much less volatile when crude prices go crackers.
Does it? Locally we have the majority of pumps ( three) under one company name. What we see is one station gets a delivery, price goes up by 1/2 p /litre, and others in that franchise follow suite, even though they haven't had a delivery. The little independents follow suite and prices rise to that of the first station. next week another in the franchise gets a delivery and all stations rise by another 1/2p. Few weeks ago ,prices came down slowly by 1/2p litre, but about 2 miles away prices fell by 5/6p . Still I notice the sheep still blindly bleating into the overpriced local pumps. I follow petrolprices.com and find the nearest place to me. Currently at a fill of £10 and MPG of circa 50 ,at worst I break even. But Mr High price loses custom. IF we all did this, then PERHAPS the oil companies who set the at the pump price might drop their pump prices to regain sales. Far better than boycotting one company , just reward those that do.

AAGR

918 posts

162 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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RobinBanks said:
I'm rarely directly insulting, but the OP is stupid.
+1

Antracer

Original Poster:

105 posts

152 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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RobinBanks said:
I'm rarely directly insulting, but the OP is stupid.
Well that is an intelligent response. Welcome to the discussion. You sound like some half wit moron "duh that guy is stupid".

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Antracer said:
Well that is an intelligent response. Welcome to the discussion. You sound like some half wit moron "duh that guy is stupid".
I'm going to provide evidence from only one of your postsnow as I find more unnecessary.

Antracer said:
45% drop in oil price, less than 20% at the pumps.
You equate the cost of crude oil to the price of petrol and ignore relevant facts such as the cost of transporting it, refining it and other associated costs to bring it to sale.

Antracer said:
filling their greedy pockets thats what.
How is the government 'greedy'? Do the people who set the taxes take a cut?
You seem to think that taxation is some kind of scam or unfair, as if the government simply wants money, rather than collecting it to run myriad public services.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Nice to see that only one person linked to the BBC article that had a link to an eu document about wholesale petrol prices in Europe, std unleaded wholesale price is 32/33p a litre and the rest of the retail price is made up duty, vat and retailer profit.

What is shows is the oil price only affects a third of the retail cost, trying to punish the oil companies makes no sense as they aren't the dominant factor in the retail price.

This is like complaining about the music the band played as the Titanic sank, pointless and futile but don't let that stand in the way of a good bhin thread.


lukefreeman

1,494 posts

176 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Justin Case said:
Wasn't someone recently suggesting on another thread that fuel tax should actually go up and VED eliminated. Having just shelled out (dreadful pun intended) £265 for a years VED, I might even agree with that if the sums add up for me.
I for one welcome this idea. Saves taxing cars and the department, and people get charged more who do 20k in their diesel bimmer, rather than the bloke driving a v8 2k a year.