We are all getting robbed at the pumps!, does anyone care?.

[SuperPav]

The fuel duties and taxes on the not-so-inconsiderate fuel costs for the 6.75 litre V8 in my old roller are, in an ironic way, subsidising the free VED etc. on my Nissan Leaf.

Hedge your bets and all that!

[shake n bake]

Buy an e.v or a push bike then o.p, that'll save you sorting out this protest you're planning. Or not planning most probably.
It is what it is, don't get mad as you can't change it.

[KM666]

I used to share op's anger. Now I pay 1.60€ a litre here in northern Italy. 20€ doesn't even get me out the red bit of the petrol gauge.

The main reason i'm not angry is that Italy is a nice place to live.

Edited by KM666 on Wednesday 4th March 20:13

[northwest monkey]

Antracer said:

We are all getting robbed at the pumps!, does anyone care?.

Not really, no. I feel left out now because I'm not outraged at something.

Anyone I can write an email to?

[NRS]

IanCress said:

Motorrad said:

What we need is a campaign. Say we boycott BP every third tuesday of a full moon or something. That'll learn them good.

Exactly. Small companies like BP don't have the cash flow to cover a days worth of lost sales. They'll go under by Wednesday morning.

BP is actually being discussed as being an acquisition target for some companies these days since it's doing so poorly,

[GroundEffect]

I think people should be put in jail if they fail A level maths.

45% in crude doesn't equal 45% drop in fuel because of the fixed fuel duty (58p/litre).

You can work out the rest.

[DaveCWK]

You're not getting robbed. You forget that your money isn't yours, it's the governments. And they want to spend it inefficiently on things you probably don't want or care about so hand it over!

[carl_w]

Swanny87 said:

And for all the British nationals who go out and get overly blotto on a Friday and Sat night, fall over/fight and break themselves, and end up in A&E because of this

Think of the alcohol tax the Revenue gains from this though.

[stuart313]

There was some kind of quiz in the mail a while ago, it laid out all the income and expenditure of the government and invited you to find a saving in the budget of something stupid like 80 billion, you had to reduce each sector by a sensible amount to balance the books.

It took about 2 seconds to knock the lot off the dole scum section. I could have been through the door of no.11 and out again in time to clock on for my second job by 8AM, being the chancellor is overrated.

How much is collected in fuel revenue?

[Mark-C]

Antracer said:

RobinBanks said:

I'm rarely directly insulting, but the OP is stupid.

Well that is an intelligent response. Welcome to the discussion. You sound like some half wit moron "duh that guy is stupid".

And what have you added to the discussion? You started the thread with a whine (complete with CAPS LOCK) and yet have still had some replies that point out the maths behind petrol pricing and this is all you can come back with?

How about contributing something to the thread you've started?

Or just do us all a favour and find another forum to be a tt in?

[J4CKO]

What are you expecting ?

Be grateful for small mercies, nobody expected a 30p drop in the price of fuel a year ago and now we have had it, the price will edge up.

I have noticed the difference in filling up and am not going to moan about it or expect more.

[Snails]

Even if oil went down to $0 per barrel, there were no refining costs, no transport costs and the retailer made no money from fuel, the cost of petrol/diesel would still be 69.5p per litre.

[budfox]

And of course the opposite is true, a tripling in oil prices would bring £3/litre.

Me, I bought a Leaf because I'd rather my money went to some Nissan guys in Sunderland than to the scum of a government that we have now, and that we had before.

[J4CKO]

budfox said:

And of course the opposite is true, a tripling in oil prices would bring £3/litre.

Me, I bought a Leaf because I'd rather my money went to some Nissan guys in Sunderland than to the scum of a government that we have now, and that we had before.

So, are you seeing a pattern, have we ever had a government you approve of, would you perhaps like some anarchy instead ? what do they need to do to please ?



The government aren't there to please us, they are there to run the country and make unpopular decisions, ok, they perhaps take that bit a bit too seriously but everyone moans about the government, I tend to look at other countries and think we aren't that badly off.

Those moaning (not you I hasten to add) are often part of the problem, throwing themselves at the state to sort out because they cant be arsed, then moaning about not getting enough free stuff, or those not paying any tax, therefore the burden to pay for it gets dropped on the working punters in PAYE.

Then there is the excessive smoking, eating st, drinking, drugs, idleness, thieving, fighting, bullying, over breeding, littering, vandalism and just revelling in being crap, then usually blaming everything on "immigrants", nobody thinks their own actions affect the bottom line but it does.


Some of it is government mismanagement, some self interest and nepotism, some may be excessive immigration, but I also think government policy is like a mirror that reflects what the population are up to, they can only work with what they have got, they have a lot of disciplined, hard working, law abiding people in this country, but they also have a significant percentage of selfish ignorant stheads draining the life out of it.

[mybrainhurts]

Johnnytheboy said:

And no fuel protest please, that was a royal PITA last time.

What are you on?

The sight of Blair, Brown and Prescott filling their pants with sticky stuff, going white and stuttering like goats was worth every drop of sweat...

[Cyder]

It runied my Birthday trip to see the BTCC though.

[IanCress]

NRS said:

IanCress said:

Motorrad said:

What we need is a campaign. Say we boycott BP every third tuesday of a full moon or something. That'll learn them good.

Exactly. Small companies like BP don't have the cash flow to cover a days worth of lost sales. They'll go under by Wednesday morning.

BP is actually being discussed as being an acquisition target for some companies these days since it's doing so poorly,

Although it's more likely to be taken over by a large multi-national, than Mrs Miggins Pie shop.

[TooMany2cvs]

Antracer said:

RobinBanks said:

I'm rarely directly insulting, but the OP is stupid.

Well that is an intelligent response. Welcome to the discussion. You sound like some half wit moron "duh that guy is stupid".

Sometimes, it's a statement of simple fact.

[NRS]

J4CKO said:

budfox said:

And of course the opposite is true, a tripling in oil prices would bring £3/litre.

Me, I bought a Leaf because I'd rather my money went to some Nissan guys in Sunderland than to the scum of a government that we have now, and that we had before.

So, are you seeing a pattern, have we ever had a government you approve of, would you perhaps like some anarchy instead ? what do they need to do to please ?

The government aren't there to please us, they are there to run the country and make unpopular decisions, ok, they perhaps take that bit a bit too seriously but everyone moans about the government, I tend to look at other countries and think we aren't that badly off.

Those moaning (not you I hasten to add) are often part of the problem, throwing themselves at the state to sort out because they cant be arsed, then moaning about not getting enough free stuff, or those not paying any tax, therefore the burden to pay for it gets dropped on the working punters in PAYE.

Then there is the excessive smoking, eating st, drinking, drugs, idleness, thieving, fighting, bullying, over breeding, littering, vandalism and just revelling in being crap, then usually blaming everything on "immigrants", nobody thinks their own actions affect the bottom line but it does.


Some of it is government mismanagement, some self interest and nepotism, some may be excessive immigration, but I also think government policy is like a mirror that reflects what the population are up to, they can only work with what they have got, they have a lot of disciplined, hard working, law abiding people in this country, but they also have a significant percentage of selfish ignorant stheads draining the life out of it.

It's so stupid. People go off on one about how they're paying too much tax, and yet they're off signing petitions about the NHS cutting expensive drugs and treatments, complain about how underfunded the NHS is etc etc etc. It's like society views the government as taking the money and then just setting fire to it.

[Camoradi]

NRS said:

It's like society views the government as taking the money and then just setting fire to it.

Which, ironically, is what we are doing every time we fill up with fuel