RE: Porsche Boxster: Market Watch

RE: Porsche Boxster: Market Watch

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mikey P 500

1,239 posts

187 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Loved my old one, a 2.5 still felt fairly quick in fact had a similar power to weight as the 2.7 that replaced it. Here it is tipping over 100k miles at the ring a few years back. Sold for less than £4k about 3yrs ago so don't think values have dropped for a while now.

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Am I missing something, no acknowledgement of a 987 Spyder? Surely the most important model of Boxster ever launched and this article completely forgets it???

billywhizzzzzz

2,006 posts

143 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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snowley said:
unsprung said:
Obviously, the roadster delivers the traditional top-down sports car experience, but it must also be said that the coupe is a looker. Such a gorgeous neo-classical shape, that roof line and rear deck.

Would definitely consider a first-gen Z4 / Z4M coupe.
I agree that the Z4m will hold up better than the roadster but obviously does not offer the roof down experience. For me, the roadster may hold firm in price, but I'd find it hard to justify over a boxster.
I looked at a Boxster S and a Z4M as a) liked the rarity, b) the madness of the S54 set up in the Z, c) the reliability when compared with engine failure issues on Boxsters. I'd have thought the Z will hold its value better but concur that the Boxster is a better all round compliant and well sorted sports car.

iloveboost

1,531 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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One of my dream cars that I think I could own some day, is a Boxster/Cayman 2.9 without PASM or PDK. No (admittedly small) chance of the engine instantly blowing up, and I think on slightly skinnier tyres would be easier for me to learn to get near 100% out of it (only if I've learnt to heel and toe smoothly by then!). Also it has the lowest risk of going wrong.

Or it's a lot cheaper to trailer a SORN 200hp-ish cheap RWD car to track days, and probably more fun.

Edited by iloveboost on Monday 23 March 20:21

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Falsey said:
Still, think Id rather have a Cayman.
I think there are some great value cars out there but, agree, Cayman for me too. I just don't "get" convertibles at all.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Years ago I would have agreed, hard top coupe every time for me. Except I now have a little girl. I suspect she would LOVE to be taken out in a drop top sports car. For the simple goal of making memories this sort of car may be on my next shortlist.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Very tempting... I love convertibles, luckily the wife has one (not Boxster) which I can 'borrow'!
Off to research insurance and the boring stuff...

Athboy501

158 posts

166 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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I'd have thought the 'proper' Spyder was worth a mention. oh well.

PompeyPaul

519 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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I wonder how many people would happily buy a Boxster circa 10k, and how many are completely put off by potential bore score issues?

HDog

90 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Fantastic cars, I sold my 01' 986 3.2 S to buy a house a good few years back. When the time came again to get back into fast, great handling sports car which can be used as a daily but also for weekend blasts guess what I ended up with? Another 986 S!!

For the money I cant find a car which covers so many bases and drives so well. They don't feel super fast but have more than enough power when you keep the revs up. The handling is sublime and they make a great noise!




mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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OK I have to ask. I thought a Boxster was a Boxster......wots this spyder then?

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Nope, clearly the author Guy R Baker doesn't know his Boxsters if he misses out the most important version of them all!!!

iloveboost

1,531 posts

162 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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anonymous said:
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Chris Harris mentioned bore scoring in his GT86/BRZ vs 370z vs Cayman S video, but didn't mention the details you just have. I also thought they were all at risk after that video, especially as the 996/986 can get cylinder liner failure.

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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I am looking for a nice sporty quickish car for around 5-7k and a Boxster would fit that bill. is there a viable alternative?

usualdog

230 posts

163 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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The article would be more useful if it included info such as sample parts prices/servicing costs etc (like Classic & Sportscar's buyers guides) so impecunious PHers can work out if it would be viable to run one.

Moospeed

543 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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The poverty pork thread is well worth a look on the porsche pistonheads forum. Would've linked but I'm on the mobile.

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Mogul said:
I've only read the 986 section so far but what pish!

In fact, as a self-confessed die hard 986 fan, I can report that my piss is actually boiling and I may spring a leak (with a replacement expansion tank being the only cure).

2016 marks the 20th anniversary of the launch of the 986 I would wager that that it will kick off a resurgence of interest in the early 2.5L cars.

Mark Mullen / SCOM are either misquoted here or have gone down in my book...
I stand by my comment that there is no chance of making any appreciable amount of money buying a 986 Boxster. Note I'm not knocking them, they're a great little car for the money, a fact I was reminded when we took in a lovely straight forward not messed about with guards red 2.5 last year. They simply made too many for them to attain any investment level of price increase.

tigerstew

5 posts

117 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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987s gen 2 all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mogul

2,932 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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It sounded like a sales pitch but I'll forgive you as you don't obviously have a 550 Spyder in stock wink

My view is that although abundant, the vast majority of 986s have been fiddled with and/or generally abused (including my own) so if one ever stumbles across a cherished/low mileage 986 of almost any flavour, it will a). be a lovely thing and b). it will have some longer term potential as 'an investment' - but perhaps not until the next cycle.

The 550 Spyder clearly has some things going for it esp. in manual with the optional but rare charcoal/black instead of the default cocoa (which could be categorised as a marmite colour) but I could imagine that a high percentage of the folk that are attracted to the 'bling' of the 550 Spyder might just as easily find what they are looking for in a 987 and could happily overlook the earlier car.

You may feel that the current value of a decent 550 Spyder is £12k but what if we could find two 2.5L cars in 'equivalent condition' (let's stipulate with full leather interiors as you can't argue against that) for the same money?

I would say that if you tucked them all away for 10 years there would be every chance that the value of the two earlier cars would overtake the value of the Spyder so there's some 'investment potential' for you.

I'm beginning to think that the 2.5L has a bit of what the 308 Vetroresina has. The later 328's were clearly better cars in many ways but as time marches on, the intrinsic qualities of the original example (and the likely scarcity of pristine original examples) will not be overlooked by the market IMO.


edc

9,234 posts

251 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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If somebody have me £12k for my 550 I'd be quite happy. Still, buying one now or in the past couple of years isn't much of an investment. The prices are still moving ever so slightly downwards. There isn't much bling on a 550. All the stuff is there as an option in the main. A tiny little plaque and a different badge are the things you couldn't get from the option list.