RE: New Caterhams Seven range confirmed

RE: New Caterhams Seven range confirmed

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LTP

2,077 posts

113 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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I always, always wanted one. Ever since KAR 120C and a subsequent trip in the passenger seat on a visit to the old Caterham site.

But as I'm 6'4" with a 36" inside leg, short of surgery all I can do is look.

Plus I'm probably too inflexible these days even to get in the passenger seat (I watched KAR 120C on the telly the first time around!).

captain jack

191 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Whilst these are getting really expensive they do retain their value incredibly well so you can have a few years fun and pretty much get your money back - especially if you build it yourself. I worked at Caterham between 1990 and 1999. Whilst I drove them every day and had one as a company car for several years I totally regret not building one with staff discount!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Why did they get rid of "Superlight", one of the great car names? Surely instead of "R" and "S", they could have kept "Superlight" and "Roadsport".

Lefty

16,162 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Is an SV still an option?

Dr Slotter

408 posts

147 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Yep.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Very odd to have such specific model numbers which mean nothing at all. They may as well have cleaned up the mess and called them: 200, 300, 400, 500, 600.

ian2144

1,665 posts

223 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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T0MMY said:
kambites said:
Indeed, and I think that's why Caterham can get away with charging what they do - their quality control is in a different league to almost all of the competition. In some ways, they're closer to a full production car maker than a kit-car manufacturer; even if you buy a Caterham in kit form there's not much you can do wrong in assembling it.

I wouldn't buy a Caterham myself but I can see why it would appeal to someone who just wants a mentally fast, raw car with the minimum of fuss.
If I was rich enough that a 5 figure price difference literally made no odds to me I'd probably go with a Caterham to be honest, but I just couldn't justify it when I bought my MNR. Laptime comparisons suggest that the Caterhams aren't any quicker than many other equivalent well set up kitcars but they do have a bit more polish about them than something like a Striker.
A Caterham will hold it's value better than any Kit Car......Buy the right car S/H and all it will cost you, are your running costs. I had an SV R400 for 3 years & 8K miles. Depreciation was only £500 over that time.
You must own a Caterham at some point in your life...

soad

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32,903 posts

177 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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soad said:
What happened to 280?

Looks like Americans are getting the 280...not checked other countries.
http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars

I recall pinching the above photo from USA web page last year. Sorry for the confusion.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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LTP said:
I always, always wanted one. Ever since KAR 120C and a subsequent trip in the passenger seat on a visit to the old Caterham site.

But as I'm 6'4" with a 36" inside leg, short of surgery all I can do is look.

Plus I'm probably too inflexible these days even to get in the passenger seat (I watched KAR 120C on the telly the first time around!).
Go try one with a lowered floor and no seat

Then say you don't fit

alexmacca

17 posts

168 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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I am 6ft 5in with a 36in leg and like above with the lowered floor and a moulded seat I fit perfectly. Regs stated I needed to be 2inches if I remember correctly under the roll cage with a helmet and that was fine too. I raced for 2 years without a problem.

The moulded seat might not have looked pretty but it was very comfortable even on long journeys, if your worried about looks get a beaded seat.

Oh I got the removable steering wheel too to aid getting in and out.

Go forth and try one for yourself! You will not regret it.

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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subirg said:
struttob said:
Silly Money !

Bob
Very true. Why spend £40k on a really fast caterham fun machine when you can spend £250k on a pointless McLaren, Ferrari or Lambo.
I think you've misunderstood, I think he's pointing out its absurdly good value for a hand built, aluminium bodied quality product with the level of craftsmanship and performance when compared to anything else even remotely similar.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Do they do an option for fat blokes yet?

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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279 said:
Do they do an option for fat blokes yet?
Yes, the SV has been out maybe 10 years now.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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kambites said:
Indeed, and I think that's why Caterham can get away with charging what they do - their quality control is in a different league to almost all of the competition. In some ways, they're closer to a full production car maker than a kit-car manufacturer; even if you buy a Caterham in kit form there's not much you can do wrong in assembling it.
Oh gawd, don't say the "k" word, you'll anger them...you have to say "component" when talking about Caterham kits. wink


Frankthered

1,624 posts

181 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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Are the numbers just power output x 2?

(Approximately.)

BritishRacinGrin

24,722 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
LTP said:
I always, always wanted one. Ever since KAR 120C and a subsequent trip in the passenger seat on a visit to the old Caterham site.

But as I'm 6'4" with a 36" inside leg, short of surgery all I can do is look.

Plus I'm probably too inflexible these days even to get in the passenger seat (I watched KAR 120C on the telly the first time around!).
Go try one with a lowered floor and no seat

Then say you don't fit
+1 I've had enough of your excuses LTP.

BritishRacinGrin

24,722 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Frankthered said:
Are the numbers just power output x 2?

(Approximately.)
Power to weight ratios. Caterhams weigh about half a ton, so the P:W is about double the bhp.

ian2144

1,665 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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bertie said:
279 said:
Do they do an option for fat blokes yet?
Yes, the SV has been out maybe 10 years now.
It was year 2000 when the SV was introduced. Mostly it's tall people that go for the SV due to the longer chassis, In my case it was for width as my 49" chest did not fit well in a standard S3.

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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ian2144 said:
bertie said:
279 said:
Do they do an option for fat blokes yet?
Yes, the SV has been out maybe 10 years now.
It was year 2000 when the SV was introduced. Mostly it's tall people that go for the SV due to the longer chassis, In my case it was for width as my 49" chest did not fit well in a standard S3.
It's also wider.

Pan Pan Pan

9,919 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Posters have made some good points here. I was talking to a bloke in a filling station who came in a Westfield, whilst I was filling the Caterham, and he said that he wished he could have got a Caterham but couldn't quite stretch his budget to one, for what he wanted, He even said that having driven both, the subjectively the Caterham did feel better to drive. That said, his Westfield was a superbly built example.
A friend has a Dax which in my view is one of the best built cars I have ever seen, either from main manufacturers or as a kit car. It exceeded aircraft quality workmanship by a long way.
I have had several Sevens, and sold them for what I paid for them many years later, but to be fair a lot of work and expense did go into them, whilst I had them.
They are still remarkable cars though (at least for those who `get' Seven type cars)
They were designed by Colin Chapman well over 50 years ago. The only sportscar ever to enter a Grand Prix (and it didn't come last) a Seven is only a few cars down on the TG powerlap, and all those above it cost tens and in one case hundreds of thousands pounds more.
There may not be many other cars that offer the driving fun that a Seven does using mainly off the shelf parts and at a price that many may be able to afford (if they can afford a second / fun car) Although some successfully use them as a daily driver, they are not `really suited to that type of use.