Cyclist v driver litter road rage
Discussion
jmorgan said:
popeyewhite said:
Also parents aren't the only source of a young persons morals or behaviour, you're completely wrong.
They should be a major influence.A further point is you can blame the parents but if they aren't of unimpeachable morals themselves then the child doesn't have the best start. Now then, who on PH reckons they have unimpeachable morals? Not me that's for sure.
Lastly the people doing the littering in the latter video are all a bit old for posters to start blaming their parents
Edited by popeyewhite on Tuesday 24th March 15:45
Pothole said:
Horse Pop said:
I like how it doesn't occur to the cyclist that pissing off Ned in his Corsa may get him a shoeing.
"'I just thought for some reason in my head I should be confronting this person."
Obviously because a helmet cam makes you into Deputy Pedals.
Ned in the Corsa should be sterilised by the government of course.
Don't bother the government, I'll do it with a straight razor for train fare and a couple of pints."'I just thought for some reason in my head I should be confronting this person."
Obviously because a helmet cam makes you into Deputy Pedals.
Ned in the Corsa should be sterilised by the government of course.
Edited by Horse Pop on Tuesday 24th March 09:29
popeyewhite said:
jmorgan said:
popeyewhite said:
Also parents aren't the only source of a young persons morals or behaviour, you're completely wrong.
They should be a major influence.A further point is you can blame the parents but if they aren't of unimpeachable morals themselves then the child doesn't have the best start. Now then, who on PH reckons they have unimpeachable morals? Not me that's for sure.
Lastly the people doing the littering in the latter video are all a bit old for posters to start blaming their parents
Mind you, I probably do not know what happens to all those bin bags that I put out every week, think the fairies take them.
hora said:
jmorgan said:
popeyewhite said:
Also parents aren't the only source of a young persons morals or behaviour, you're completely wrong.
They should be a major influence.(IMO) by the time a child gets to school the school can be on the backfoot trying to manage years of bad engrained behaviour thats continually re-enforced every night and every weekend still...
But we're talking littering here, not genocide.
hora said:
I'd have done the same. Why live your life hoping others will pull people up/point things out?
Round my area I pick up litter and bin it. If I see anyone I'd take their ear off*.
Regardless whether I'm on a pogo stick, scooter or V12-something.
Look after your community. Don't be a curtain twitcher/living in fear or someone who never intervenes or steps in because its not your problem.
Scary.Round my area I pick up litter and bin it. If I see anyone I'd take their ear off*.
Regardless whether I'm on a pogo stick, scooter or V12-something.
Look after your community. Don't be a curtain twitcher/living in fear or someone who never intervenes or steps in because its not your problem.
- The bloke in the vid- he'd be taken aback as I wouldn't chuck it in I'd take his bloody ear off. He'd think twice I hope about getting out as he'd be picking it up and binning it infront of me. Moob-bodied-slack-jawed looking girly man
Edited by hora on Tuesday 24th March 13:51
stewy68 said:
Driver should be charged with littering and penalised to the full extent of the law.
However, the cyclist also deserves what he gets for being an interfering, sanctimonious p
k.
Why is he sanctimonious? To many pricks like the litter lout who treats the road like his living room.However, the cyclist also deserves what he gets for being an interfering, sanctimonious p
k.oyster said:
You sound like an 8 year old.
Here in the real world - the world real men live in, we solve issues of crime and disturbance by involving the police. It's how modern societies work.
Or do you prefer the neanderthal way? If so, why live in such an advanced society?
You sound like you wear a helmet cam.Here in the real world - the world real men live in, we solve issues of crime and disturbance by involving the police. It's how modern societies work.
Or do you prefer the neanderthal way? If so, why live in such an advanced society?
St John Smythe said:
hora said:
I'd have done the same. Why live your life hoping others will pull people up/point things out?
Round my area I pick up litter and bin it. If I see anyone I'd take their ear off*.
Regardless whether I'm on a pogo stick, scooter or V12-something.
Look after your community. Don't be a curtain twitcher/living in fear or someone who never intervenes or steps in because its not your problem.
Scary.Round my area I pick up litter and bin it. If I see anyone I'd take their ear off*.
Regardless whether I'm on a pogo stick, scooter or V12-something.
Look after your community. Don't be a curtain twitcher/living in fear or someone who never intervenes or steps in because its not your problem.
- The bloke in the vid- he'd be taken aback as I wouldn't chuck it in I'd take his bloody ear off. He'd think twice I hope about getting out as he'd be picking it up and binning it infront of me. Moob-bodied-slack-jawed looking girly man
Edited by hora on Tuesday 24th March 13:51
I wonder if the Corsa driver took anything from the exchange other than "I showed him", was there any realisation that dumping a soft drink cup into the road is obnoxious, now much additional education do these scumbags need, do they want to wade through takeaway debris, nappies, excrement and old newspapers on a daily basis, do they think that an old mattress really enhances a grass verge ?
How are we managing, in this day and age to breed anything sentient that thinks a Corsa, a baseball cap, st music and litter are a good idea, can they serve a useful purpose other than compost ?
How are we managing, in this day and age to breed anything sentient that thinks a Corsa, a baseball cap, s
t music and litter are a good idea, can they serve a useful purpose other than compost ?popeyewhite said:
DonkeyApple said:
popeyewhite said:
With their billions in profits the fast food outlets could easily afford to pay some graduate to litter watch the car park. Should be a law.
This is bonkers. Littering is a failing of the individual and their upbringing.
It is a result of bad parenting.
Why as a society have we become obsessed with blaming moral turpitude on the entity with money?
At what point is is someone like MacDonald's fault or even problem if a a person is so badly raised that they think it acceptable to litter?
The reason littering has become so endemic is because of this pisspoor way of thinking that the evil business is to blame and absolving the litterer and their s
t parents of blame. Love the 'moral turpitude' bit though. Nice to think some PHers are Puritans!
Not sure why you're harping on about 'evil business' - it's quite an extrapolation to go from 'fast food outlets could easily afford' etc to that.
Also parents aren't the only source of a young persons morals or behaviour, you're completely wrong.
People get very self righteous about how businesses are to blame for their packaging ending up as litter on the ground, the argument mainly being that they shouldn't provide so much packaging, but how can they really take responsibility for it? Tell their customers to open wide and shove everything into their gobs at the counter? Refuse to serve anyone chavvy looking? Why should some poor sap getting paid peanuts be made to go out picking up litter other people have dropped? Why do people always expect "Big Business" or "The Government" to clear up after them and pander to them and allow them to do whatever they want because their actions aren't really their fault?
Blakewater said:
When I worked for a well known high street store it was declared my job as a first aider to clear up used condoms where prostitutes had been banged up against the loading bay doors.
People get very self righteous about how businesses are to blame for their packaging ending up as litter on the ground, the argument mainly being that they shouldn't provide so much packaging, but how can they really take responsibility for it? Tell their customers to open wide and shove everything into their gobs at the counter? Refuse to serve anyone chavvy looking? Why should some poor sap getting paid peanuts be made to go out picking up litter other people have dropped? Why do people always expect "Big Business" or "The Government" to clear up after them and pander to them and allow them to do whatever they want because their actions aren't really their fault?
I think you have landed on part of the problem - the expectation that someone else will do it. My heart sinks whenever you see vox pops on TV of members of the "great British public" boldly stating "they should do something about it", without enlightening us as to who "they" are, or what the "something" is.People get very self righteous about how businesses are to blame for their packaging ending up as litter on the ground, the argument mainly being that they shouldn't provide so much packaging, but how can they really take responsibility for it? Tell their customers to open wide and shove everything into their gobs at the counter? Refuse to serve anyone chavvy looking? Why should some poor sap getting paid peanuts be made to go out picking up litter other people have dropped? Why do people always expect "Big Business" or "The Government" to clear up after them and pander to them and allow them to do whatever they want because their actions aren't really their fault?
Europa1 said:
Blakewater said:
When I worked for a well known high street store it was declared my job as a first aider to clear up used condoms where prostitutes had been banged up against the loading bay doors.
People get very self righteous about how businesses are to blame for their packaging ending up as litter on the ground, the argument mainly being that they shouldn't provide so much packaging, but how can they really take responsibility for it? Tell their customers to open wide and shove everything into their gobs at the counter? Refuse to serve anyone chavvy looking? Why should some poor sap getting paid peanuts be made to go out picking up litter other people have dropped? Why do people always expect "Big Business" or "The Government" to clear up after them and pander to them and allow them to do whatever they want because their actions aren't really their fault?
I think you have landed on part of the problem - the expectation that someone else will do it. My heart sinks whenever you see vox pops on TV of members of the "great British public" boldly stating "they should do something about it", without enlightening us as to who "they" are, or what the "something" is.People get very self righteous about how businesses are to blame for their packaging ending up as litter on the ground, the argument mainly being that they shouldn't provide so much packaging, but how can they really take responsibility for it? Tell their customers to open wide and shove everything into their gobs at the counter? Refuse to serve anyone chavvy looking? Why should some poor sap getting paid peanuts be made to go out picking up litter other people have dropped? Why do people always expect "Big Business" or "The Government" to clear up after them and pander to them and allow them to do whatever they want because their actions aren't really their fault?
In the litter case in question, it is simply pointless to intervene. People such as the Corsa driver will take no notice whatsoever and their reaction is entirely predictable, especially when they're confronted aggressively. It can be worse:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news...
Choose your battles carefully and I don't mean like our poster who lobbed rubbish through a woman's car window.
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