Best car for a 18 year old 'just passed' driver,£15k budget
Discussion
ajh38 said:
I would get a 1.2 C1/ 108 (the Aygo isn't built in 1.2). They're quite fun, cheap to insure and have things like reversing camera, Bluetooth, USB, Auto lights, mirror screen etc.
Cheap to insure and cheap to fuel. They've been out less than a year so will still be modern when you finish university and for a small car they are reasonably good on the motor way.
UP!/Mii/CitiGo can be hand for 5-6k as well. Lower spec ones, but they are cars in the same mould as the Aygo and are supposedly more refined on the motorway. Toyota currently have 1 years free insurance on the Aygo, but I think you need to take their finance and I am not sure on the age limit. Peugeot will do a just add fuel PCP thing that covers everthing and looks ideal for those who just want to pay X and have it all taken care of.Cheap to insure and cheap to fuel. They've been out less than a year so will still be modern when you finish university and for a small car they are reasonably good on the motor way.
New Aygo and its brothers are very good cars as well, faster than their 70 hp would suggest and decently refined with plenty of cool toys (if you don't go totally spartan and opt for the proper 7 inch display system). Would happily have one.
I nearly went for an Aygo X-cite on PCP at the weekend but did a U-turn. Just couldn't face paying x for 40 months. It wasn't even that much, circa £140/mo, which for 2 people earning above average each and with a modest mortgage is easily doable. But I just couldn't bring myself to be on tick. The dumb thing is, we could save the cash to buy outright and then I'll be quibbling over dropping it all on a car thinking its better to bung it all in savings and investments.
In short, I'll never buy anything at all and end up wearing the same clothes and driving the same car for the rest of my life. The end.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Tuesday 24th March 12:34
bramley said:
This is painful reading. Why shouldn't the OP spend his £15k budget? I would if I was him. And what's all this 'no need to spend that much' crap? YOU didn't spend that much because YOU couldn't. OP can, get over it!
Because if he spent £10k on a decent car, he'd waste £5k in insurance in the first year. If he spent £14k on a car that's cheap to insure, it'd be crap and also a waste of money. There's really no good way to spend £15k on your first car, not with the way insurance is these days. Hence all the suggestions of saving the rest for when you can actually have something nice.Sometimes we're actually trying to help, rather than being bizarrely bitter towards someone more fortunate..
Personally i'd forget about getting a new car, you'll constantly be worried about people hitting it in car parks and you'll need to bend over prior to taking insurance out.
I'd have a look at an older car, and buy and run it for a year using 5k, and then use the 10k you've put aside 2 years later, once you have 2 years NCB to buy a proper car, You can get a BMW Z4, 350z, Porsche Boxters and a lot better cars for 10k that wouldn't be an option with no NCB.
Think about it, is an insurance company going to insure you as a new driver on a 300hp RWD Nissan Sports car?
No, or if they do you'll be spending 10k on insurance.
Be patient. My first car was a Ford Ka, and I was cooler than most because I was the one of the first to pass and get a car, not because of the car itself. Some people tried to take the piss yeah, but they soon got put in there place when you asked what they drove.
OP, I'm only a couple of years older than you, I had the cheap shed, now I'm in the position that I can drive what I want and pay semi-reasonable insurance costs. It will come to you aswell, but you need to wait a year/18 months, driving around in something older (not necessarily a shed) for a bit to get used to the roads, driving on your own and with people and then move up into the more powerful sports cars. Next year i'll be looking at something with a lot more than the 120 or so hp I have now to something probably beginning with a 3, or even a 4.
If you blow all of your money on a new-ish first car, then you'll have no money when you're in a position to insure something nice, fast and sporty you can't afford the car.
5k for the first year or so, then look at spending the other 10k on something better when the time comes and insurance allows.
I'd have a look at an older car, and buy and run it for a year using 5k, and then use the 10k you've put aside 2 years later, once you have 2 years NCB to buy a proper car, You can get a BMW Z4, 350z, Porsche Boxters and a lot better cars for 10k that wouldn't be an option with no NCB.
Think about it, is an insurance company going to insure you as a new driver on a 300hp RWD Nissan Sports car?
No, or if they do you'll be spending 10k on insurance.
Be patient. My first car was a Ford Ka, and I was cooler than most because I was the one of the first to pass and get a car, not because of the car itself. Some people tried to take the piss yeah, but they soon got put in there place when you asked what they drove.
OP, I'm only a couple of years older than you, I had the cheap shed, now I'm in the position that I can drive what I want and pay semi-reasonable insurance costs. It will come to you aswell, but you need to wait a year/18 months, driving around in something older (not necessarily a shed) for a bit to get used to the roads, driving on your own and with people and then move up into the more powerful sports cars. Next year i'll be looking at something with a lot more than the 120 or so hp I have now to something probably beginning with a 3, or even a 4.
If you blow all of your money on a new-ish first car, then you'll have no money when you're in a position to insure something nice, fast and sporty you can't afford the car.
5k for the first year or so, then look at spending the other 10k on something better when the time comes and insurance allows.
McSam said:
ecause if he spent £10k on a decent car, he'd waste £5k in insurance in the first year. If he spent £14k on a car that's cheap to insure, it'd be crap and also a waste of money. There's really no good way to spend £15k on your first car, not with the way insurance is these days. Hence all the suggestions of saving the rest for when you can actually have something nice.
Sometimes we're actually trying to help, rather than being bizarrely bitter towards someone more fortunate..
But it's not for you to decide the point at which his insurance premium is a waste is it? If he can afford it, why not?Sometimes we're actually trying to help, rather than being bizarrely bitter towards someone more fortunate..
Look around this forum, none of us NEED these nice cars do we?! OP fill yer boots
R2T2 said:
Personally i'd forget about getting a new car, you'll constantly be worried about people hitting it in car parks and you'll need to bend over prior to taking insurance out.
I'd have a look at an older car, and buy and run it for a year using 5k, and then use the 10k you've put aside 2 years later, once you have 2 years NCB to buy a proper car, You can get a BMW Z4, 350z, Porsche Boxters and a lot better cars for 10k that wouldn't be an option with no NCB.
Think about it, is an insurance company going to insure you as a new driver on a 300hp RWD Nissan Sports car?
No, or if they do you'll be spending 10k on insurance.
Be patient. My first car was a Ford Ka, and I was cooler than most because I was the one of the first to pass and get a car, not because of the car itself. Some people tried to take the piss yeah, but they soon got put in there place when you asked what they drove.
OP, I'm only a couple of years older than you, I had the cheap shed, now I'm in the position that I can drive what I want and pay semi-reasonable insurance costs. It will come to you aswell, but you need to wait a year/18 months, driving around in something older (not necessarily a shed) for a bit to get used to the roads, driving on your own and with people and then move up into the more powerful sports cars. Next year i'll be looking at something with a lot more than the 120 or so hp I have now to something probably beginning with a 3, or even a 4.
If you blow all of your money on a new-ish first car, then you'll have no money when you're in a position to insure something nice, fast and sporty you can't afford the car.
5k for the first year or so, then look at spending the other 10k on something better when the time comes and insurance allows.
Oh sweet Jesus....I'd have a look at an older car, and buy and run it for a year using 5k, and then use the 10k you've put aside 2 years later, once you have 2 years NCB to buy a proper car, You can get a BMW Z4, 350z, Porsche Boxters and a lot better cars for 10k that wouldn't be an option with no NCB.
Think about it, is an insurance company going to insure you as a new driver on a 300hp RWD Nissan Sports car?
No, or if they do you'll be spending 10k on insurance.
Be patient. My first car was a Ford Ka, and I was cooler than most because I was the one of the first to pass and get a car, not because of the car itself. Some people tried to take the piss yeah, but they soon got put in there place when you asked what they drove.
OP, I'm only a couple of years older than you, I had the cheap shed, now I'm in the position that I can drive what I want and pay semi-reasonable insurance costs. It will come to you aswell, but you need to wait a year/18 months, driving around in something older (not necessarily a shed) for a bit to get used to the roads, driving on your own and with people and then move up into the more powerful sports cars. Next year i'll be looking at something with a lot more than the 120 or so hp I have now to something probably beginning with a 3, or even a 4.
If you blow all of your money on a new-ish first car, then you'll have no money when you're in a position to insure something nice, fast and sporty you can't afford the car.
5k for the first year or so, then look at spending the other 10k on something better when the time comes and insurance allows.
bramley said:
But it's not for you to decide the point at which his insurance premium is a waste is it? If he can afford it, why not?
Look around this forum, none of us NEED these nice cars do we?! OP fill yer boots
No, it's not for us to decide any of this. But he asked. Which is why we're giving advice. That is how forums work, isn't it?Look around this forum, none of us NEED these nice cars do we?! OP fill yer boots
McSam said:
o, it's not for us to decide any of this. But he asked. Which is why we're giving advice. That is how forums work, isn't it?
He asked for car suggestions. You haven't given him any car suggestions, just your life history, a delightful anecdote about Mondeo exhausts, and told him he's Doing It Wrong.So, yes, this is exactly how forums work!
bramley said:
But it's not for you to decide the point at which his insurance premium is a waste is it? If he can afford it, why not?
Look around this forum, none of us NEED these nice cars do we?! OP fill yer boots
Reality check; it is what his parents can afford.Look around this forum, none of us NEED these nice cars do we?! OP fill yer boots
Most of the suggestions are about being sensible with his parents money, not splurging everything on car that is going to be going up and down to Scotland whenever he comes home to get his washing done.
I don't give the advice to buy a cheap old petrol car out of jealousy, I genuinely think parents buying children new cars as new drivers is a terrible idea no matter how much money they have. Of all the people I have known start to drive, the ones who bought their own cars were fine and the ones who had them bought by parents crashed them.
I think the memory of the hard work that was required to earn that car instills a sense of value and inspires much greater care to be taken. Older cars in general have less electronic nannying, greater feedback and a softer window of loss of grip, driving them will teach new drivers much more about limits than modern cars.
I think the memory of the hard work that was required to earn that car instills a sense of value and inspires much greater care to be taken. Older cars in general have less electronic nannying, greater feedback and a softer window of loss of grip, driving them will teach new drivers much more about limits than modern cars.
vtecyo said:
15k of your parents money including insurance, with chick appeal.
Evo.
Next.
PS:
It wasn't a cool car, no. I know that. Frnakly, it was sEvo.
Next.
PS:
R2T2 said:
I was cooler than most....
....Some people tried to take the piss yeah
Sorry to burst your bubble but.......Some people tried to take the piss yeah
Edited by vtecyo on Tuesday 24th March 14:05
t. But what it was, was a car which no-one else had - which made it.
Evo, as a first car?
R2T2 said:
Personally i'd forget about getting a new car, you'll constantly be worried about people hitting it in car parks and you'll need to bend over prior to taking insurance out.
I'd have a look at an older car, and buy and run it for a year using 5k, and then use the 10k you've put aside 2 years later, once you have 2 years NCB to buy a proper car, You can get a BMW Z4, 350z, Porsche Boxters and a lot better cars for 10k that wouldn't be an option with no NCB.
Think about it, is an insurance company going to insure you as a new driver on a 300hp RWD Nissan Sports car?
No, or if they do you'll be spending 10k on insurance.
Be patient. My first car was a Ford Ka, and I was cooler than most because I was the one of the first to pass and get a car, not because of the car itself. Some people tried to take the piss yeah, but they soon got put in there place when you asked what they drove.
OP, I'm only a couple of years older than you, I had the cheap shed, now I'm in the position that I can drive what I want and pay semi-reasonable insurance costs. It will come to you aswell, but you need to wait a year/18 months, driving around in something older (not necessarily a shed) for a bit to get used to the roads, driving on your own and with people and then move up into the more powerful sports cars. Next year i'll be looking at something with a lot more than the 120 or so hp I have now to something probably beginning with a 3, or even a 4.
If you blow all of your money on a new-ish first car, then you'll have no money when you're in a position to insure something nice, fast and sporty you can't afford the car.
5k for the first year or so, then look at spending the other 10k on something better when the time comes and insurance allows.
It must be hard work being so cool?I'd have a look at an older car, and buy and run it for a year using 5k, and then use the 10k you've put aside 2 years later, once you have 2 years NCB to buy a proper car, You can get a BMW Z4, 350z, Porsche Boxters and a lot better cars for 10k that wouldn't be an option with no NCB.
Think about it, is an insurance company going to insure you as a new driver on a 300hp RWD Nissan Sports car?
No, or if they do you'll be spending 10k on insurance.
Be patient. My first car was a Ford Ka, and I was cooler than most because I was the one of the first to pass and get a car, not because of the car itself. Some people tried to take the piss yeah, but they soon got put in there place when you asked what they drove.
OP, I'm only a couple of years older than you, I had the cheap shed, now I'm in the position that I can drive what I want and pay semi-reasonable insurance costs. It will come to you aswell, but you need to wait a year/18 months, driving around in something older (not necessarily a shed) for a bit to get used to the roads, driving on your own and with people and then move up into the more powerful sports cars. Next year i'll be looking at something with a lot more than the 120 or so hp I have now to something probably beginning with a 3, or even a 4.
If you blow all of your money on a new-ish first car, then you'll have no money when you're in a position to insure something nice, fast and sporty you can't afford the car.
5k for the first year or so, then look at spending the other 10k on something better when the time comes and insurance allows.
BritishRacinGrin said:
vtecyo said:
chick appeal.
Evo.
Next.
Evo.
Next.
Fast and Furious generation
Guys who got the most chicks had something like a classic car, or something lads considered boring. Polos, Golfs, Minis, 205, 309 a Skoda Rapide. All pulled the chicks. Anything with a wing on it or that made a lot of noise did not.
bramley said:
McSam said:
No, it's not for us to decide any of this. But he asked. Which is why we're giving advice. That is how forums work, isn't it?
He asked for car suggestions. You haven't given him any car suggestions, just your life history, a delightful anecdote about Mondeo exhausts, and told him he's Doing It Wrong.So, yes, this is exactly how forums work!
I took a different approach to demonstrating how the typical route isn't the only one nor necessarily the best. I was trying to be helpful and informative. He seemed to appreciate it. Only you are giving me s
t for it, and I wasn't trying to help you.And to think I said I hoped the OP would enjoy his stay here.. Sometimes I'm not sure I'm enjoying it myself.
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