New Jaguar XF

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Elroy Blue

8,686 posts

191 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Blown2CV said:
Is this the bit where I wade in and say it was the least reliable car I've ever owned, and there's an excellent reason why they depreciate like st?
We got XFs for our Police fleet. We aren't getting them anymore. Sad as they drove well, but they just spent too long off the road.

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

152 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Usual formula - rather dull saloon with a powerful intimidating face for powerfully built corporate director types.

Blown2CV

28,695 posts

202 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Elroy Blue said:
Blown2CV said:
Is this the bit where I wade in and say it was the least reliable car I've ever owned, and there's an excellent reason why they depreciate like st?
We got XFs for our Police fleet. We aren't getting them anymore. Sad as they drove well, but they just spent too long off the road.
fk knows how the manufacturer and dealer network have won so many awards in recent years as my experience was that they were maximum superkuntz. Oh bribes. Fair dos.

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Blown2CV said:
Elroy Blue said:
Blown2CV said:
Is this the bit where I wade in and say it was the least reliable car I've ever owned, and there's an excellent reason why they depreciate like st?
We got XFs for our Police fleet. We aren't getting them anymore. Sad as they drove well, but they just spent too long off the road.
fk knows how the manufacturer and dealer network have won so many awards in recent years as my experience was that they were maximum superkuntz. Oh bribes. Fair dos.
Our XF was great as was the dealer. Free travel sweets with every service is not the work of superkuntz

Blown2CV

28,695 posts

202 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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BigBen said:
Blown2CV said:
Elroy Blue said:
Blown2CV said:
Is this the bit where I wade in and say it was the least reliable car I've ever owned, and there's an excellent reason why they depreciate like st?
We got XFs for our Police fleet. We aren't getting them anymore. Sad as they drove well, but they just spent too long off the road.
fk knows how the manufacturer and dealer network have won so many awards in recent years as my experience was that they were maximum superkuntz. Oh bribes. Fair dos.
Our XF was great as was the dealer. Free travel sweets with every service is not the work of superkuntz
Like with any st car, there's always lucky owners. The proof isn't when things go right, it's when things go wrong.

i didn't get any sweets, and to be fair i was there that often that i'd have expected to have been invited around to the service manager's house for dinner. Not that that's why i think they arse-rubbers, that's only because they failed to fix the car when it was under warranty, and were still trying to fix it when the warranty had expired... and then tried to bill me; and were entirely unrepentant when this customer service atrocity was raised to quite a high level.

JLR? I st on thee until all eternity.

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Blown2CV said:
BigBen said:
Blown2CV said:
Elroy Blue said:
Blown2CV said:
Is this the bit where I wade in and say it was the least reliable car I've ever owned, and there's an excellent reason why they depreciate like st?
We got XFs for our Police fleet. We aren't getting them anymore. Sad as they drove well, but they just spent too long off the road.
fk knows how the manufacturer and dealer network have won so many awards in recent years as my experience was that they were maximum superkuntz. Oh bribes. Fair dos.
Our XF was great as was the dealer. Free travel sweets with every service is not the work of superkuntz
Like with any st car, there's always lucky owners. The proof isn't when things go right, it's when things go wrong.

i didn't get any sweets, and to be fair i was there that often that i'd have expected to have been invited around to the service manager's house for dinner. Not that that's why i think they arse-rubbers, that's only because they failed to fix the car when it was under warranty, and were still trying to fix it when the warranty had expired... and then tried to bill me; and were entirely unrepentant when this customer service atrocity was raised to quite a high level.

JLR? I st on thee until all eternity.
Just like with any good car there's always unlucky owners?

Mind you it does indeed sound like your dealers were arse-rubbers.

Blown2CV

28,695 posts

202 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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If it was good it wouldn't have halved in value before the warranty had even expired. Truth bomb I'm afraid. Maybe the new one will be better as it wasn't designed for a fiver on the back of a beer mat using lowest bidder parts.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Blown2CV said:
If it was good it wouldn't have halved in value before the warranty had even expired. Truth bomb I'm afraid. Maybe the new one will be better as it wasn't designed for a fiver on the back of a beer mat using lowest bidder parts.
Cars that look good but are st under the surface is Jaguar "heritage", it's been the case for a very long time. I seem to remember Setright saying much the same, that all the money was spent on the bits you saw in the showroom and the rest was done as cheaply as possible. My S-Type certainly seemed that way.

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Blown2CV said:
If it was good it wouldn't have halved in value before the warranty had even expired.
Yes it would large exec saloons depreciate quickly, that is surely not news to anyone. The XF depreciates at a similar whack to similar cars.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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dme123 said:
Blown2CV said:
If it was good it wouldn't have halved in value before the warranty had even expired. Truth bomb I'm afraid. Maybe the new one will be better as it wasn't designed for a fiver on the back of a beer mat using lowest bidder parts.
Cars that look good but are st under the surface is Jaguar "heritage", it's been the case for a very long time. I seem to remember Setright saying much the same, that all the money was spent on the bits you saw in the showroom and the rest was done as cheaply as possible. My S-Type certainly seemed that way.
The X300 and X308 XJ's were some of the best-made cars of their time. The X-type and S-type were a bit flakey due to cost-cutting from the Ford parts-sharing, but nothing like the shocking quality of Mercedes at the millennium for example.

V88Dicky

7,302 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Krikkit said:
The X300 and X308 XJ's were some of the best-made cars of their time. The X-type and S-type were a bit flakey due to cost-cutting from the Ford parts-sharing, but nothing like the shocking quality of Mercedes at the millennium for example.
My lowly 2006 X-type is one of the most reliable and well made cars I've ever owned over the last 24 years, and that includes various Audis, VWs as well as 'well made' Toyotas and Subarus. My wife's last car, a run-out S-Type was similarly good.

Can't speak for the diesel versions though.

Pickled Piper

6,334 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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It's a Jag. It will ride and handle superbly, especially on UK roads. It will look good, inside and out.

It will be a nice alternative to the usual Germans. However, it will be plagued with electrical problems, especially if you buy one of the first years production, and you will be on fist name terms with the Warranty Manager at your local Jag dealership.

Just my prediction.

smile pp

Rammy76

1,050 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Pickled Piper said:
It's a Jag. It will ride and handle superbly, especially on UK roads. It will look good, inside and out.

It will be a nice alternative to the usual Germans. However, it will be plagued with electrical problems, especially if you buy one of the first years production, and you will be on fist name terms with the Warranty Manager at your local Jag dealership.

Just my prediction.

smile pp
Your prediction?

I think you'll find there's many BMWs, Audis and Mercedes with plenty of issues also.

kambites

67,460 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Jaguar tend to do better than the Germans on customer satisfaction surveys, which I suppose is ultimately what matters...

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2014-uk-vehi...

Pickled Piper

6,334 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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kambites said:
Jaguar tend to do better than the Germans on customer satisfaction surveys, which I suppose is ultimately what matters...

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2014-uk-vehi...
They do indeed to extremely well in Customer Sat surveys. Arguably, it's sales that ultimately deem the car a success.

markwm

144 posts

219 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Been on the configurator. Think the S model looks great from the front and side, but the back is a different story. The two dweeby exhaust tips look comical paired with the all singing and dancing front.

jamieduff1981

8,022 posts

139 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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V88Dicky said:
Krikkit said:
The X300 and X308 XJ's were some of the best-made cars of their time. The X-type and S-type were a bit flakey due to cost-cutting from the Ford parts-sharing, but nothing like the shocking quality of Mercedes at the millennium for example.
My lowly 2006 X-type is one of the most reliable and well made cars I've ever owned over the last 24 years, and that includes various Audis, VWs as well as 'well made' Toyotas and Subarus. My wife's last car, a run-out S-Type was similarly good.

Can't speak for the diesel versions though.
I'm on my 4th Jag and they've been great cars. Living in Aberdeen I'm surrounded by German crap. I'm also fairly capable at resolving issues and I've got a constant stream of "friends" who contact me every time their German car has a problem again and they want to know if I can have a look before they give in and suffer the arrogance of Aberdeen German car dealers. That's the only time you hear from the f****rs mind, but I still get a lot of contact.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

172 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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kith said:
RenOHH said:
In my opinion that is class leading exterior styling.
Its nice enough, but I think the Maserati Ghibli looks better
I think all of its competitors look better, awful looking car.

popeyewhite

19,618 posts

119 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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berlintaxi said:
kith said:
RenOHH said:
In my opinion that is class leading exterior styling.
Its nice enough, but I think the Maserati Ghibli looks better
I think all of its competitors look better, awful looking car.
Not sure the new(ish) 5 series is a looker. Jag coupes look nice but I don't play golf, wear a polo neck or have a combover.