Which car maker currently offers the "worst" range of cars?

Which car maker currently offers the "worst" range of cars?

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Truckosaurus

11,183 posts

283 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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TurboHatchback said:
... and there is not a single Vauxhall I would ever consider owning...
Indeed. When was the last time that a Corsa/Astra/Vectra (or previous incarnations) was a better car than the equivalent Fiesta/Focus/Mondeo - I guess it was the early nineties when the final iteration of Escorts were very poor and the Sierra was on its last legs.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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valiant said:
Fiat.
Take away the 500 and you have an ageing, outdated line up. Grand Punto, Bravo have all been left behind by their competitors and are sorely in need of replacing.
I don't think Fiat still sell the Bravo do they? Eleventy million versions of the 500, a few Panda variants and the Punto.

uncler

37 posts

184 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Honda would get my vote - not a single car of theirs that I would even contemplate visiting a dealership for. Toyota are as bad but redeem themselves ever so slightly with the GT86.

Also agreed with Vauxhall - they make some nice looking cars (Astra GTC), but generally a tepid range of automobiles that aren't anywhere near as good as their Ford counterparts. Hasn't stopped people buying them though!

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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uncler said:
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Also agreed with Vauxhall - they make some nice looking cars (Astra GTC), but generally a tepid range of automobiles that aren't anywhere near as good as their Ford counterparts. Hasn't stopped people seeing through one comment made by a very silly man a good number of years ago
EFA and if you want to saint him there a 270 + page thread doing that .

cars1993

390 posts

203 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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kia, Hyundai, peugeot, citroen, renault, vauxhall, dacia, fiat, lancier, proton, lada, SsangYong, TaTa

All terrible cars

mikeyr

3,118 posts

192 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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cars1993 said:
kia, Hyundai, peugeot, citroen, renault, vauxhall, dacia, fiat, lancier, proton, lada, SsangYong, TaTa

All terrible cars
Top trolling! Kia don't make any good cars? rolleyesrofl



vtecyo

2,122 posts

128 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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cars1993 said:
kia, Hyundai, peugeot, citroen, renault, vauxhall, dacia, fiat, lancier, proton, lada, SsangYong, TaTa

All terrible cars
Lancier.

Excellent.

Monkeylegend

26,225 posts

230 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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cars1993 said:
TaTa

Bye bye wavey



rj1986

1,107 posts

167 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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vikingaero said:
Monkeylegend said:
Chaps and chapesses, I think I've sussed out what happened to 300bhp.

Good to see nobody knocking Mercedes.
Audi, BMW & Merc have produced cars to fill niches within niches within niches.
6 series grand coupe - 4 door version of the coupe version of the 4 door version.

Still looks nice though.

aka_kerrly

12,415 posts

209 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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mph1977 said:
vournikas said:
Chevrolet spring immediately to mind.

If only for the fact that every model in their range has the aesthetic appeal of a bad dose of haemorrhoids.

US Chevrolet or Daewoolet ?

the DAEwoolets it;s becasue they are GMs worldwide bargain basement brand and the US ones it's just because the USDM lags behind on such things ...
Very good point, Chevy Europe is a disgrace.

I have a US Chevy jumper that I wear less an less as it irks me that in the UK some people now wonder if I'm a fan of Daewoos.eek

crofty1984

15,830 posts

203 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
Dacia
I can't agree. Dacia make cars that are very good at their proposed brief: Be very cheap to buy and reliable.
My brother's got one and I'd stop short of calling it "desirable" but it's certainly good at what it does: Be white goods transport.

cars1993

390 posts

203 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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vtecyo said:
Lancier.

Excellent.
Just to confirm. Some of the old cars of these were brilliant. Im talking about the new ones lol

mikeyr

3,118 posts

192 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Think he was referring to spelling of Lancia.

Agree with you on the Lancia front though - can you even buy the Ypsilon still?

callywally18

435 posts

133 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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All the Mitsubishi hate on this thread!

Must admit I work for Mitsubishi (&Suzuki) and we do sell a lot of the PHEV's & ASX's. They are really good cars and the ASX is pretty good value for money as well, £22k gets you a diesel with nav, reverse camera leather and a 5 yr warranty.

Have to agree about the mirage, awful cars and awfully priced. Especially when next to the swifts we sell for £10k brand new with sat navs!

white_goodman

Original Poster:

4,042 posts

190 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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I've been keeping a tally and it seems like Vauxhall have overtaken Mitsubishi as the worst range! Surprising, as they have a relatively large range and the Corsa and Astra still sell fairly well and I wouldn't say they were bad cars, just a bit unexceptional i.e. I can't think of a single Vauxhall that I would pick over something else comparable in its class. They also have VXR. Performance hatches and saloons with plenty of power and manual gearboxes, presumably aimed at people like us. Having said that, personally I find the Corsa and Astra VXR a bit too chintzy and the VXR8 certainly appeals and I think that if I drove one I would like it but 50k seems like a lot of money for a car with a Vauxhall badge and an interior worthy of a 15k car. The last new Vauxhall that really interested me was the Monaro (and that was a Holden).

Just behind Mitsubishi in 2nd place, we have Fiat and Chrysler Dodge (ironic as they are the same company) and then Chevrolet and Toyota.

In Chevrolet Europe's defence, the Chevrolet range is exactly the same as the US one (we just don't get some of the more exoensive, interesting stuff) and I'm not sure whether you have been able to buy a new Daewoo-badged Chevrolet for about 5 years now i.e. the latest Spark, Aveo, Cruze and Trax are all GM Chevrolet products? Although I wouldn't personally buy one of these cars, I would say they are easily a match for their equivalent Vauxhall products in terms of quality and driving.

Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Its because people have blind badge hate. The reality is Vauxhalls are no better or worse than anything else out there. But because PH has to slavishly follow every word that Clarkson says we must slag them off at every given opportunity.


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Crafty_ said:
Its because people have blind badge hate. The reality is Vauxhalls are no better or worse than anything else out there. But because PH has to slavishly follow every word that Clarkson says we must slag them off at every given opportunity.
That may be true now, but until relatively recently Vauxhalls were crap and significantly worse in many aspects to their competitors. Vectra vs Mondeo being a prime example.

sday12

5,053 posts

210 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Definitely Hateful sorry Vauxhall

Lots of ugly pointless dull chrome laden averageness


SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Any non S or RS Audi. And they are pretty poor too.

Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Mr2Mike said:
That may be true now, but until relatively recently Vauxhalls were crap and significantly worse in many aspects to their competitors. Vectra vs Mondeo being a prime example.
Vauxhall have made the odd stinker, sure - they all have. But the Vectra B was 20 years ago ! 20 ! Get over it people !

As someone above said, look at any non "special" german saloon, they really aren't much different.