Council Bankrupt/****ing money up a tree - Parking Ticket
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Issi said:
Zod said:
Issi said:
If he was, I bet you a pound that he was 'ONLY' a couple of minutes late.
Wow the tosser brigade are out responding to this one! He states that he was one minute late.You know when the sign states 'parking limited for 1hr only'? Do you think it means 1hr only or 1hr and a few minutes?
This is why there is a 3 minute margin. I think this is being increased by some councils to 10 minutes.
How would people here feel about a speeding ticket for doing 71mph on the motorway?
It probably won't be so much the council as the private company employed by the council that automatically rejects every appeal. My mum got a parking ticket when the traffic warden didn't see the pay and display ticket positioned squarely in the middle of her dashboard and every appeal was rejected. She'd even challenged him at the time and showed him the ticket but he just acted thick and said he hadn't seen it before accusing her of buying it after he'd booked her, despite it having a time of purchase on it. Several photographs were sent to her nicely angled not to show the ticket on the dashboard, the traffic warden was either very short or crouching when he took them. She had to take it to an independent ombudsman to get the ticket overturned. Next time she parked in the same place she caught the same traffic warden trying to book her as she was buying her ticket from the machine.
It probably won't be so much the council as the private company employed by the council that automatically rejects every appeal. My mum got a parking ticket when the traffic warden didn't see the pay and display ticket positioned squarely in the middle of her dashboard and every appeal was rejected. She'd even challenged him at the time and showed him the ticket but he just acted thick and said he hadn't seen it before accusing her of buying it after he'd booked her, despite it having a time of purchase on it. Several photographs were sent to her nicely angled not to show the ticket on the dashboard, the traffic warden was either very short or crouching when he took them. She had to take it to an independent ombudsman to get the ticket overturned. Next time she parked in the same place she caught the same traffic warden trying to book her as she was buying her ticket from the machine.
PHmember said:
Issi said:
You know when the sign states 'parking limited for 1hr only'? Do you think it means 1hr only or 1hr and a few minutes?
Do you think the OP deliberately took ONE MINUTE extra just to be awkward? Prat. Issi said:
Do you HONESTLY believe that he was only 60 seconds late? Gullible.
If I've read it correctly that's the councils own timings he's using.Member of the family runs a council. Wood and trees springs to mind whenever they discuss their current work situation.
OP. It's ridiculous. I'd fight it all the way.
The Mad Monk said:
The two cases are not comparable.
They are in terms of an injustice being done.The OP overstayed by one minute.
The council have a 3 minute grace period policy.
The ticket should never have been issued.
The council are wasting time, money and causing stress in a case that should have been quietly dropped when the facts were presented to them.
Instead of which more resources will be wasted.
In my case I ended up at a full court hearing with public prosecutor, judge and clerk of the court after 3 appeals were turned down.
So that's 5 people (counting me and my witness) who wasted at least 2 hrs of their lives and associated costs, plus all the preparation and travel time just because these systems seem to operate on a presumption of guilt.
Fight it OP. f
k 'EM.Issi said:
PHmember said:
Issi said:
You know when the sign states 'parking limited for 1hr only'? Do you think it means 1hr only or 1hr and a few minutes?
Do you think the OP deliberately took ONE MINUTE extra just to be awkward? Prat. I'd fight it all the way as a matter of principle. Of course there are pisstakers, but the few traffic wardens who are reasonable human beings will allow ten minutes or so, maybe more. Where I used to live the local council decided to make our residential street a restricted area requiring permits. Oddly enough, these weren't free so you had to pay to park your own taxed car outside your council taxed home. If like me you brought different cars home as part of your job you had to be vigilant to avoid the Parking Nazis. Yellow lines were regularly painted with black hammerite, signs vandalised but still the bds would come down and ticket cars. There was absolutely no need for it. It ruined someone's day and made the council 50 quid but I'm proud to say I reduced one of them to tears after a particularly savage verbal attack. A woman had come to take her dying mother for a hospital visit when one of the Nazis came out of nowhere and slapped a ticket on her Clio that had been there less than two minutes. I was so fking livid - had she been a bloke, a smack in the mouth would have been administered for the sole reason that they were an evil .
ds would come down and ticket cars. There was absolutely no need for it. It ruined someone's day and made the council 50 quid but I'm proud to say I reduced one of them to tears after a particularly savage verbal attack. A woman had come to take her dying mother for a hospital visit when one of the Nazis came out of nowhere and slapped a ticket on her Clio that had been there less than two minutes. I was so fking livid - had she been a bloke, a smack in the mouth would have been administered for the sole reason that they were an evil .budfox said:
This issue of course is the size of the fine, and that is genuinely ridiculous.
Fines should be for no more than double the cost of the equivalent parking fee.
How does that work? I can be 3 hours late and only pay double what I should have paid for a half hour ticket? Its supposed to be a deterrant and simple to administer, that wowuld be impossible to police and make no money.... Fines should be for no more than double the cost of the equivalent parking fee.
vxsmithers said:
budfox said:
This issue of course is the size of the fine, and that is genuinely ridiculous.
Fines should be for no more than double the cost of the equivalent parking fee.
How does that work? I can be 3 hours late and only pay double what I should have paid for a half hour ticket? Its supposed to be a deterrant and simple to administer, that wowuld be impossible to police and make no money.... Fines should be for no more than double the cost of the equivalent parking fee.
Of course, a council parking charge might be imposed through a bye law, so contract might not be relevant, but in that case, if there is a customary grace period, then it should be applied generally,
And now you have CEO's that they don't tell you about until, you get a ticket for partially obstructing a dropped kerb that a council lorry can obstruct fully, all flipping day. Councils are as bent as they can be when it comes to fleecing the motorist. Especially Nottingham City Council who have to pay for a new tram network.
Nope, I never got a ticket but I know a charity worker who did.
Nope, I never got a ticket but I know a charity worker who did.
OK. My mistake on this one, to be perfectly honest I skim read after reading the first couple of sentences and missed the 3 minute grace period.
I've just seen so many topics that appear to be people trying to wriggle out of being caught out ( I was only doing 43 in a 30 etc), that I bit.
Sorry OP.
I've just seen so many topics that appear to be people trying to wriggle out of being caught out ( I was only doing 43 in a 30 etc), that I bit.
Sorry OP.
poing said:
This is why there is a 3 minute margin. I think this is being increased by some councils to 10 minutes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31759767Supposed to have taken effect this month, or at least was expected to;
BBC Article said:
Drivers in England will get 10 minutes' grace before being fined if they stay too long in council-owned car parking spaces, the government has announced.
It is one of several changes, expected to take effect later this month, which include new restrictions on the use of CCTV cars issuing automatic fines.
It is one of several changes, expected to take effect later this month, which include new restrictions on the use of CCTV cars issuing automatic fines.
iSore said:
I'd fight it all the way as a matter of principle. Of course there are pisstakers, but the few traffic wardens who are reasonable human beings will allow ten minutes or so, maybe more. Where I used to live the local council decided to make our residential street a restricted area requiring permits. Oddly enough, these weren't free so you had to pay to park your own taxed car outside your council taxed home. If like me you brought different cars home as part of your job you had to be vigilant to avoid the Parking Nazis. Yellow lines were regularly painted with black hammerite, signs vandalised but still the bds would come down and ticket cars. There was absolutely no need for it. It ruined someone's day and made the council 50 quid but I'm proud to say I reduced one of them to tears after a particularly savage verbal attack. A woman had come to take her dying mother for a hospital visit when one of the Nazis came out of nowhere and slapped a ticket on her Clio that had been there less than two minutes. I was so fking livid - had she been a bloke, a smack in the mouth would have been administered for the sole reason that they were an evil .
You're proud to say you verbally abused a woman for doing her job?, regardless of whether she showed empathy or not I think your opinion is shocking, I'd have the same thoughts if it was a male warden.ds would come down and ticket cars. There was absolutely no need for it. It ruined someone's day and made the council 50 quid but I'm proud to say I reduced one of them to tears after a particularly savage verbal attack. A woman had come to take her dying mother for a hospital visit when one of the Nazis came out of nowhere and slapped a ticket on her Clio that had been there less than two minutes. I was so fking livid - had she been a bloke, a smack in the mouth would have been administered for the sole reason that they were an evil .Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff